The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Best of The Empowered Principal® Podcast

As we wrap up 2025 and settle into the holiday season, I have a special gift for you.

Instead of adding to your already full plate, I’ve curated the most powerful moments, insights, and conversations from the past year of The Empowered Principal® Podcast. Think of it as your personal highlight reel, wrapped up with a bow.

This best-of collection brings together transformative concepts that have resonated most deeply with my community: from understanding leadership as personal development to recognizing the energy of a classroom beyond just what it looks like. Take some time for yourself this season. Pour a cup of something warm, find a cozy spot, and let these reminders wash over you.

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why professional development at its core is actually personal development and how this shifts your approach to growth.
  • The rope-dropping technique for disengaging from tension-filled dynamics with staff, parents, or colleagues.
  • How the one-third perspective helps you navigate relationships.
  • Why you’re always only doing one thing at a time, even when you think you’re multitasking.
  • The difference between what teaching and learning looks like versus what it actually is.
  • How empowered principals empower their teams to lead rather than trying to be the sole decision-maker.
  • Why internal validation must be your foundation, with external validation serving as just the cherry on top.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 418.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Well, hello my empowered principals. Happy Tuesday, and welcome to this very special holiday episode of the podcast. As we wrap up the 2025 calendar year and settle into the rhythm of the holiday season, I wanted to give you something a little different.

Today’s episode is a best-of collection featuring some of the most powerful moments, insights, and conversations from past episodes of The Empowered Principal Podcast. Think of this as a gift from me to you, a beautifully wrapped bundle of the reminders and the tools and the conversations that have helped so many principals and district leaders throughout the past year. Have a beautiful holiday season. May you be well, may you enjoy, may you rest, may you play and celebrate. I will see you in the new year. Wishing you all the best. Enjoy the show.

I didn’t know what life coaching was, but I knew I needed one because my life was a big mess. I was not feeling like I was doing anything well, being a parent, running my household, being a good principal, being an instructional leader. So I found this person, Dr. Martha Beck, and I signed up for her program, not to become a life coach, but to learn what it meant to coach my own life. I wanted some empowerment back. I wanted some agency. I wanted a sense of control somewhere along the way.

And from her, I learned just some techniques to just regulate myself emotionally when I was overwhelmed or to stop and take time for myself to just literally make sure that I’m drinking water, make sure that I am eating lunch, making sure that I put time limits on the amount of work that I did. So I started playing around with this idea of I’m a human in a school leadership role versus I’m a school leader and that’s my only identity because that job’s never done. We all know that.

The same goes for students. If there are students listening to this, you might just think like the studying’s never done, the learning’s never done. And on one hand you’re right because we are lifelong learners, but on the other hand, there needs to be something more than studying, learning, test scores, achievement, and that there needs to be living. So there’s all the doing, but then there’s also the living.

Being a leader, stepping into a leadership identity and a leadership role, that role requires you to develop yourself. It invites you to the expansion and the evolution of you personally. Professional development at its core actually is personal development. Because you can go and you can learn information and knowledge and skills and concepts and platforms and ideas to build you up professionally, but what really happens is you expand your capacity as a leader, or you expand your capacity as a teacher. And that happens only when you expand yourself personally, when you are open to learning, when you are willing to get it wrong until you get it right, when you’re willing to implement something and have it be messy and a little awkward and a little clumsy and a little bumpy and a little crunchy.

That requires personal development. It requires you to develop yourself and maturely approach your professionalism. It requires maturity and personal growth to be vulnerable and to allow people to give you feedback and to observe you and to try new things you haven’t tried before in front of somebody. That’s very vulnerable, but that is a personal development skill.

Imagine the analogy of a game of tug of war. In the game of tug of war, it takes two people to pull at the rope. For there to be tension between two people, if the rope is energy and it’s connecting you to that other person, both people on both ends must be pulling at the rope for there to be tension in the rope. If one person or the other drops the end of the rope, the tension drops. The tension in the rope lags and it goes falls to the ground. There is a disconnect. When one person disconnects, detaches from that attachment, there is no longer energy being transferred back and forth.

So, when you’re in a game of tug and war, for example, when we feel we are right, we feel very justified, very self-righteous that we are right. We have facts, we have data, we have information. We have proof. We pull at the rope to prove we are accurate. We’re tugging to prove we are accurate. When we feel we’ve been wrongly accused, when we’ve been blamed, when we feel that blame is inaccurate, we will tug with defensiveness. We will do anything to try and prove ourselves not wrong. We will tug, we will engage, we will attach to defensiveness, we will pull with defensiveness, and we will engage in a tug of war. When we feel that somebody’s lying to us or we feel they are withholding information or there’s something we feel energetically that they’re doing that’s an omission or they’re lying to us or they’re hiding something from us, we get engaged, we pick up the rope and we pull. We tug to try and corner them. We try to catch them in their lie. Instead of picking up the rope and pulling and engaging in a tug of war, drop the rope.

You are always only doing one thing at a time. Even when you think you’re multitasking, you’re really doing one thing. Even when you’re driving and listening to the podcast, you are physically engaged in the act of driving. The outcome you’re going to create when you drive is that you’re going to go from A to B. Now, you can autopilot your actions while your brain is thinking about the podcast, the content of this podcast. So you’re thinking about what I’m saying as you’re doing the action of driving.

And this podcast, you can check off the box and say you’ve listened to the podcast, but you haven’t taken action on the podcast, unless the action is an internal mindset shift that’s occurring. But even so, that mindset hasn’t created a different result yet in the external version of your life. So even when you think you’re multitasking, and I’ve really explored this because I used to preach multitasking. I used to be the poster woman of multitasking. I thought it was the right thing to do. I thought it was the efficient, effective thing to do, most productive thing to do.

But I noticed, when I’m actually in a meeting, but I’m also checking my phone for emails, I’m either engaged in answering an email or I’m engaged in the meeting. I’m not actually both. I might physically be present at the meeting, but if I’m engaged on my computer or on my phone, I’m not engaged in the meeting. There’s one thing that I’m doing at a time. So it feels like you’re multitasking because your body’s in one space and your mind is in another space, but you’re really only doing one or the other. You’re physically creating a result or you’re mentally preparing to create a result, but you’re not doing both. You can never be physically producing more than one result at a time.

Your body is always in one space. Have you noticed in your house, you might have a 5,000 square foot house, but your body is only enjoying one space at a time. You’re either in your bathroom getting ready for the day or you’re in your bed or you’re relaxing reading a book or you’re sitting by your fireplace or you’re out in your garage tinkering or you’re in your kitchen creating some delicious delectable to eat. But you’re only in one space. You’re in your office or you’re in your bedroom, or you’re in your living room, or you’re in your kitchen. You’re either inside or you’re outside. You’re in one space.

The most impactful thing that you can do as a leader in your building is empower others to lead. And so, because that’s where you see that magnification of the things that you can do, the capacity grows so much further when you don’t feel like it has to go through yourself. And that’s not, you don’t have to feel like you’re making yourself redundant in that. It takes courage as a leader and people will see you as a stronger leader when you let go of power and actually say, no, I trust you. Let’s do this. But you need to build your team towards that so that they understand that they have capacity to make decisions, that you trust them and they’re empowered. You know, this is The Empowered Principal. The whole idea is that the empowered principal empowers their team to lead so that they can lead effectively.

Leadership isn’t ego driven. It’s not me fixing problems. It’s not me having to know the knowledge and the wisdom and then imparting it on people and then marching people down the street and do as I say and do as I do and that’s not leadership. Leadership’s actually the opposite of that where when you’re leading people, they are choosing to follow. They are inspired, they’re listening, and we create that climate when our mindset shifts from it is my job to be the leader and look like a leader and be perceived as a leader versus let me show people what leadership looks like internal leadership from an internal space.

When parents give us attention, appreciation, love, gratitude, that is the cherry on top. I want external validation, external acknowledgement, external kudos, all of that to be your cherry on top. Let it be the whipped cream, let it be the cherry, let it be the sprinkles. But underneath that big old ice cream sundae is the foundation that’s you. The best part of the sundae isn’t just the sprinkles and the cherry and the whipped cream. The foundation it’s built upon is the beautiful ice cream of your flavor of your choice. You can be vanilla, you can be chocolate, you can be mint chip, you can be praline. It doesn’t matter what flavor you are. The foundation of you is you. You’re unique. You have your own flavor, but that is what matters.

A bowl of cherries, whipped cream and sprinkles does not fulfill you for very long. We want the Sunday because of the ice cream flavors we chose. Are you following me here? So, when teachers are dismayed, it is because they have slipped out of empowerment. And you can invite them back into empowerment, invite them back into internal validation. Of course, as humans, we’re wired for connection. We are wired to belong. We want external validation. It’s a lovely thing to have, but we can’t rely on it and we know that it’s fleeting.

Somebody gives us a compliment today, it feels good today, but tomorrow we don’t get one and now we don’t feel good. We are relying on external intermittent validation. That’s not going to carry us very far. Versus waking up every day and personally aligning to who you are, who you’re becoming as an educator, loving it, going in, doing the work. And when it’s hard, whoo, take a little break, get some rest, recover, and come back at it because we chose this because we love this, because we are feeling validated in who we are and what we’re doing.

We’ve all had classrooms we walk into. We walk in and we know that there’s good things going on. And then we can walk into another classroom and we can know that there are some hiccups going on. There is some, it’s not so smooth in that room, okay? There might be a detour happening or there might be some bumps in the road. We’ve got a smooth sailing, this road trip’s going great, we’re on track, it’s aligned. And then we’ve got this one that’s, you know, maybe stopped and they’re at the carnival for the day. It’s kind of chaotic, okay?

So, more than just how it looks is the energy of a classroom. It’s how the classroom feels. And without saying too much more about that, I want you to contemplate for the week, when you’re walking through classrooms, when you’re doing observations, there is the actions and the words that you’re observing behaviors, right? There are words, there are actions, and then there is an energy in that classroom. Because kids can be sitting on the carpet, crisscross applesauce, hands in their lap and totally silent. They could look engaged and not be engaged.

Teaching and learning is not what it looks like. It’s what it actually is. And empowered principals, exceptional school leaders, go beyond what it looks like and go through to what it is. They think about the energy of the classroom, how it feels, how it feels for students, how it feels for the teacher, how it feels as the leader to be in that room. There’s something more that is expressed on our campuses than just what people are doing, the actions they are taking.

The one-third perspective is very simple. You’ve probably heard it before, actually. I don’t think that my coach invented this. I don’t know who invented it, somebody did, but I believe that it’s universal and I’ve applied it in my life. I’ve watched clients apply it and it works. So I invite you to try it. One-third of the people, whether that’s your staff, your students, your families, your community, your colleagues, the world. I like to think of it as the world. A third of the people on the planet in your school, in your district, are going to vibe with you. They’re going to be on board with you. They’re going to like you. You call these people your people. They’re the people that you just feel click right in. You click with them, you enjoy them. These people support you, they love you, they care about you, they rally for you. You feel in sync with them. You feel good when you’re around them. You have aligned values, you have aligned visions, and it’s like you’re just in the same lane, floating down the same river, going in the same direction. Easy peasy.

Then you have a third that in the very big picture, if you’re thinking about a third of the people on the planet, these people aren’t even aware of you. There are so many billions of people on this planet and many, many, many, many, many of them, probably more than a third, will never know our existence. They will never really know us. They’re not even aware of us. But if you bring it into the context of your life and the people you do know and the people that are aware of you, so the people who are at school or the people in your social circles or your family or your community, your district, that kind of thing, these people, this third of the people, and this is all in relation to you, right?

So a third of the people you know are going to like you. A third of the people that you know and are in your sphere, these are people who I define as neutral. They don’t love or hate you. They’re just more focused on themselves, their work, their lives. They’re kind of in their lane doing their thing. They’re not out rallying for you, but they’re not out hating on you. They’re just doing what they need to do regardless of who the principal is at their school. They’re getting up and doing their job and focusing on their kids and teaching. They’re complying. They’re doing what needs to be done and what they’re asked to do as employees. But they’re not expressing explicit approval or disapproval. So they’re kind of the neutral crowd. And you can probably think of people on your campus who are like that.

They’re pleasant, they’re cordial, they’re professional, but they’re not big ralliers. They’re not people you would want to hang out with 24/7, but you don’t dislike them either. You could visit with them at a cocktail party or, you know, at the staff meeting or a staff, you know, gathering. You could go to a happy hour with them and they would be lovely to talk with. And you might learn something amazing about them and maybe they become your people. But they’re currently neutral.

And then, you know, the other third, these are the people who do not agree with you, do not approve of you, do not support you, do not like you. You say go, they say stop. You tell them your hair is blonde. They say, no, it actually is strawberry blonde, right? They just have a little opinion, have a little resistance, have something different to offer in every case. They will agree to disagree. They will blame, complain, they might argue, they might point out your faults and mistakes. It feels like these people are on the planet to cause you pain and suffering and frustration. These are people that really get under your skin. They trigger you, okay? You know who I’m talking about. You know who I’m talking about with your people, you know who I’m talking about the neutrals, and you know who I’m talking about with those who get your goat.

We’re grappling with the discomfort of school leadership, the struggle of school leadership, but also the beauty of it, the luxury of it, the privilege of being a school leader. We have a platform. It’s time for us to start sitting up at that table, taking ownership and responsibility. We are leaders. It is time that we lead. We lead conversations. We open the door up, not just to talk about, hi, how are you feeling today? You know, have a good teaching day. But to talk about, what are we doing? Why are we doing it? And look, it’s not to say that we sit down and we have all of the answers. It’s to cultivate the conversations, to kind of, you know, I think about, I’ve been really into building fires. I have this beautiful fireplace in the home in which I’m staying right now and in this fireplace, it will look like the fire is dying out and the embers are going gray or black out. And if I just take the little poker and I stoke those embers, a flame will reignite or the embers will glow.

And I feel like we’re going into education, we’re looking at the surface and we’re like, well, it may be smoldering a bit, but, you know, there’s nothing below. It’s about dead. But if you were to stoke that fire and have a conversation, so much will come to the surface, a lot of energy, a lot of opinions, a lot of anger, a lot of pain, a lot of frustration, a lot of confusion and overwhelm. I believe there is so much confusion right now and the reason that we are suffering in the, you know, sense of mental and emotional suffering when it comes to being frustrated, feeling exhausted, being overwhelmed, actually is coming down to confusion. We haven’t had the talk. We’re not sitting down saying, what is the actual purpose? What is the actual function of school? What is the value? And can we increase the value?

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | Personal Empowerment Over the Holidays

Do you find yourself dreading the holidays instead of enjoying them?

Maybe it’s the pressure of sending hundreds of greeting cards, hosting the perfect party, or dealing with difficult family conversations. The truth is, most of us are trying so hard to meet everyone else’s expectations that we forget to ask ourselves what we actually want. And once you fall into this pattern, the holidays become more about obligation than celebration.

Join me this week as I dive into how to embrace your personal empowerment over the holidays. I share my own experiences from my days in school leadership, and a simple process for evaluating your holiday commitments and saying no to the things that don’t serve you. Most importantly, you’ll hear how to be the version of yourself that you want to be during the holidays.

 

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • How to evaluate your holiday to-do list and identify what brings genuine pleasure versus obligation
  • Why saying no to even one small thing can feel incredibly empowering and freeing.
  • The importance of setting intentions before attending family events and knowing your why.
  • Practical “gray rock” responses that deflect triggering comments.
  • How to prepare yourself mentally for family dynamics that might pull you into old patterns.
  • What standards of engagement mean and how to maintain them during stressful conversations.
  • Why being the energy you want in the room can shift the entire dynamic of family gatherings.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 417.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Well, hello, my empowered principles. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the podcast. And happy holidays. Wherever you are in the world, I’m wishing you a beautiful holiday season. Whatever holiday you celebrate, it can be personal, it can be global. Whatever holidays you are celebrating this time of year, I just want to wish you the happiest and loveliest of holiday seasons.

As you know, this podcast is intended not just for school leadership, but for life leadership. This is a life and leadership coaching podcast. So today we’re going to talk about how to embrace your personal empowerment over the holidays. This is a stressful topic for many people, and I want to offer this. It’s quick, short, sweet, but it will give you some things to consider as you’re preparing and planning for the holiday season. So, a couple of topics that tend to come up for individuals this time of year are, number one, all of the pressures of the holidays. You are working full-time, you are leading a school, there’s a million celebrations going on at your school, and then your kid’s school, and then you have all of the personal obligations and responsibilities and festivities of the holiday season.

So it can feel like a lot of pressure when you are working full-time, if you are a parent, if you are a spouse, if you have an extended family that does a lot of celebrating, or your community or your church, any place of worship does some kind of celebration over this time of year. A lot of the time, there is extra contributions in terms of charity or donation work, helping those in need. There’s a lot of ask on us. There’s a lot of requests for our time, attention, effort, energy, and focus, and it can feel extremely overwhelming. There can be a lot of pressure. So, I want to offer you kind of a little process that you might be able to use to ensure that you actually have fun over the holidays and that the holiday things themselves don’t become the problem, okay?

So, I think back to my own days of school leadership and things that I felt were pressure points in the holidays were greeting cards, sending out hundreds of greeting cards to everybody I’ve ever known, family, friends, acquaintances, colleagues. I loved to do them, but it was so much work, and they felt like a lot of pressure. Another thing: so many gifts. Did I give everybody I know a gift? My neighbors, my family, my friends, Alex’s friends, friends of friends. It just felt like I was, colleagues. I wanted to gift everybody.

Gifting is my love language and it became pressure, and I would feel so badly if I accidentally forgot somebody or missed something. So gifts became pressure. Parties… they were both fun and pressure. So I would host a holiday celebration in my personal home for my staff, or we would have it out depending on the situation and the year, but there were a couple of years where I did have it at my own house just for ease and cost-effectiveness to not have to rent out a place or a hall. And it was both fun and stressful.

So, notice if you have a lot of parties, celebrations going on. Decorations can be stressful. My sister and I were talking about this where she has this big, beautiful, historic house. It’s four stories tall. You could decorate for miles and days on end in that home. It could be a winter wonderland, should you want it, Santa’s workshop kind of a thing. And she said it no longer became fun when you had to take it down, and it just took so much time and effort. We were talking about how decorations can even be a chore and another pressure on top of working full-time and leading all the parties, all the festivities, doing the cards, getting the gifts. Then there’s hosting. If you’re cooking or cleaning or you’re hosting people, that can be another pressure. Those are just things off the top of my head. I’m sure there are other pressures in your mind that you personally have dealt with before.

So whatever pressure comes from the actual holiday time, the holiday season, just consider, first of all, go through your list of things to do, your holiday things to do, and say, “Do I love this? Does this make me feel good? Do I want to do it? Is it a pleasure? And does it add value? Does it add pleasure to my life? Does it add a memory? Do I love the greeting card process? Do I want to send out 200 greeting cards for the holidays?” If you answer yes, you love doing it, you don’t mind the time, you don’t mind the effort, you don’t mind licking and sticking and stamping and mailing and you don’t mind all of that stuff, by all means, say yes to yourself if it brings you pleasure. If it does not bring you pleasure, say, “No, thank you.” Send out an email. Don’t send anything. You don’t have to do it. Did you know that?

Now, Step One is to go through your list. Anything that doesn’t feel good, say, “No, thank you.” Now, you’re going to go through your list and you’re going to be like, “Oh gosh, I would love to cross off this, this, and this. I’m not going to host. I’m just going to have it catered in at school. We’re not doing a holiday party, we’re just going to do a holiday lunch.” Great. Done. Ask PTO for some funds, get some money, get it catered in. We had family members who owned restaurants and they were more than happy to donate food for staff celebrations. It was so beautiful. I loved it. It was so fun. So think of creative ways to take things off your plate.

And then when you go through the list, there are things you would say to yourself, “I would love to cross this off my to-do list. I don’t like this. It’s a lot of pressure. I would rather not. I’m tired. I want to relax on my holidays with the week off or the two weeks off that you have, but I feel like I can’t.” And when you hit that little milestone, what you have to ask yourself is, why do I believe that I have to? And this is where you self-coach. Why do I believe I have to? What’s making me feel obligated? If I didn’t have to, what would I choose instead? What would I choose to do with my time, my energy, my life during the holidays? How would I want to celebrate? Get to know yourself better. Who am I? What do I love about the holidays? What brings me pleasure? What memories do I love to create and what am I happy to let go of? And then work towards saying no to that or to adjusting it to making it somewhat better. Even 10% better can be a big relief.

If it’s difficult for you to say no to things, try one teeny tiny no. See how empowering it feels to say no to one thing over the holidays that you don’t want to do. Maybe decline a party or maybe send out electronic greeting cards versus paper ones. Or again, maybe downsizing the number of celebrations or the amount of decorating. Just a 10% reduction can make you feel amazing.

Part two of this: navigating family events, dinners, conversations. Politics have been really intense this past few years. So if you are planning to attend a family event, ask yourself why. What is my intention for attending this event? Do I want to attend it? Do I desire to attend it? Even though I know it might not be perfect or I know there will be conversations that I need to navigate or emotions that I need to internally regulate, do I want to go? Why? Do I want to connect? Are there people I really want to see? Do I desire this? Do I want this for my kids? Do I want my spouse to have a connection with his family?

So we’re going to the in-laws. Whatever it is, why are you going? Are you going for connection because you desire it, because you want to create these memories? You want your kids to create memories? It might be fun. You want to go? Or is it, “I hate going. I don’t want to go. I can feel it in my body. It’s an absolute stop. I don’t want to go. It’s obligation, pressure from the family. You’re expected to attend without your consent. There’s family dynamics that you don’t want to deal with.” Again, get in tune with yourself. What is triggering you and why? How do you want to feel?

And if you’re going to decide to attend because you do want to attend, but you’re nervous around navigating the discomfort and the differences of personalities, difference of opinions, you can still set an intention for yourself and create some internal calmness, some internal tethering, I like to say, so that you are still enjoying yourself as much as possible.

So, how do you want to feel? With whom do you want to connect while you are at this family event? What do you want to connect over with those loved ones that you desire to see? So what is it about them you want to know, learn, catch up on? What do you have in common that you could ground yourself in conversation to keep things pleasant and feeling light, love, connection, those kinds of things? What kind of conversations also interest you? So what are you interested in about the other person? What would you like to know about them? And then also, what are some topics you would like to bring up and connect with your loved ones, okay?

So even with all of that pre-planning, there still can be some stressful moments. So you want to prep yourself in advance for that, too, right? What are your standards of engagement? What are the standards by which you want to present yourself? Who do I want to be coming into my family? Because I know for me, I can get sucked into old patterns of behavior, old ways of thinking, old ways of reacting, from facial expressions to mannerisms to shutting down to pouting. I can go into very childlike behaviors, and I don’t want to do that. It can be hard with your family of origin because they trigger you back into a space and time when you were much younger. So what are your standards for yourself of engagement? And what are your boundaries? What do you plan to do if a standard has been violated? So let’s say somebody starts attacking you verbally about politics, or they start gossiping about other people, and you choose not to engage in gossip.

What is your plan if someone starts to gossip or someone starts to bring up politics, trying to poke the bear within you to get you to react and respond and engage? What is your plan? And where do you draw the line? Where you just say, “No, thank you,” and shut them down? Or is there a point at which you would have to take your family and leave? Just think about this in advance so that you can be prepared and you’re thinking about it with your prefrontal cortex versus thinking about it when you’re in fight or flight and you’ve already been triggered. And if you know things are going to be a little intense, you can set a time limit on how much time you spend there, okay?

So think about things, how you’re going to handle comments, things about your weight, your look, being present, what you brought, what you didn’t bring, your personal status, your professional status. People who like to poke at you, if there’s somebody in the family who does that, notice in advance what triggers you personally and what triggers you emotionally and why. Do the self-coaching work. This is preparing yourself, doing that internal work, knowing yourself in advance. You’re not trying to avoid it or shove it down or just suck it up. You want to be aware of it and have what is called a gray rock response.

So a gray rock response is just a flat line response that’s short, sweet, but it’s neutral, and it doesn’t give a lot of ammo for them to get you engaged in a tug-of-war conversation. So, here are a couple of phrases that can just shut down some kind of triggering comments. So, “Hey, Angela, looks like you’ve gained some weight this year.” “Maybe.” Dead, right? It just stops. “Maybe I have.” It just stops. I just say, “Maybe.” “You look so tired. That job must be too much for you.” “Maybe.” I love this word. “Maybe. Maybe. Maybe you’re right.” Just, it doesn’t engage at all, right?

The other thing that I say when people are making snide comments, “Nice of you to come this year,” because I used to live in California and come home. You know, some people might say like, “Well, so nice to see you. So nice for you to be here this year.” “Thank you.” “Thank you. It’s nice to be here.” I love this. “Thank you.” I say thank you to just about everything because what can they say back to that? They just look at you like you’re a little bit off, and you’re like, “Maybe.”

So, another comment, maybe like you’re traveling for the holidays, so you didn’t bring green bean casserole, or you didn’t bring the turkey. Everyone else did the hosting and the cooking and they’re going to let you know how much work they put into the red carpet event for you. You know, they’ll say like, “Well, we went to all this work for you,” or like, “It took us hours to decorate,” or, “You know, every time you come home, everybody goes crazy.” “Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate the work. I can see the house is beautiful. The turkey smells amazing. Thank you.” Boom. And you don’t even have to go into all the things that I just said. You could literally say, “Thank you. Thank you.”

When you gray rock respond, there’s very little room to pull you in because what they want is a tug-of-war. So just keep your intention in mind, focus on being in the energy that you want to be in the room. So what kind of energy do you want to cultivate in that room? Be the leader of that. Be the energy. Be the love, the light, be the funny person, be the excited, the eager, the enthusiastic person, be engaged, be interested, be interesting. Be that person whether or not people like it. Be you because you want to be you. You want to be that version of you.

And people are either going to meet you at that energy and things are going to go so much better than they have in the past years or your past experience with them, and they rise to the occasion because they just, they don’t even understand that energetically they’re matching you because it’s attracting them in. They like it. They like that there’s not conflict. Or you will have people who are resentful and resisting because they internally just can’t handle light, love, enthusiasm, and they want that argument because they think it makes them feel better, when inside you know that’s personal for them. They’re struggling internally and they’re projecting it externally.

So, with that said, happiest of holidays. Celebrate. Be the version of you that you want. Say yes to what you want, no to what you don’t. Practice it. I know it can be challenging at first, but it’s so liberating, it’s so freeing, and it’s so empowering. Have a beautiful holiday season. I love you all. Take good care. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Culture of Complaining

Have you noticed an uptick in complaining at your school lately?

Maybe it’s the constant venting about broken technology, construction delays, or just the general “heaviness” of the year. We’ve all been there, nodding along as someone vents, secretly agreeing with their frustrations. But when we jump in the pool with complainers, nobody’s left on the sidelines to throw a life preserver.

Tune in this week to discover a powerful approach to transform the culture of complaining into empowerment. You’ll learn the exact questions to ask that flip the energy from helpless to hopeful, and how to create a complaint-free culture without dismissing legitimate concerns.

 

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why people complain and what gives them permission to continue this pattern.
  • The difference between expressing feelings that need validation and habitual complaining.
  • How your own agreement with complaints perpetuates a negative culture.
  • Practical questions to shift conversations from complaints to empowerment.
  • Why spending time complaining often takes longer than just solving the problem.
  • How to validate emotions while still moving people toward solutions.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 416.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Hello, my empowered principals. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the podcast. I hope that the magic of December is snowing upon you and that everyone is in their high holiday spirits and that the moods are lovely and bright, just as we would want them to be this time of year. But if they’re not, we’re going to talk about the culture of complaining.

I was talking with one of my clients who has been a one-on-one client for years. She’s now an EPC, and we were talking about October, November being hard this year. Being, the fall dip just felt like it lingered on and on and on. And she said the year has felt heavy this year.

So I want you to think, when you are thinking that the year is heavy, those are your thoughts, your emotions, it’s your current experience. Just be mindful not to project how you feel onto your staff. So if the year is feeling heavy for you, self-coach. Check in with you. Why does it feel heavy for me? Am I carrying a personal burden? Is there something going on in my personal life? Is there a lot going on professionally for me? Am I carrying a lot of weight for myself this year? Am I carrying a lot of weight for others? What’s coming up for me that I think the year is heavy?

Now, if you are believing the year is heavy because other people keep saying, “Wow, it’s just been such a heavy year. There’s just so much going on. I feel really heavy this year. I feel the dip. The fall dip is just in full swing.” If you are hearing that from other people, then you can explore with others why that might be happening.

But I want to highlight something that really caught my attention. I have been coaching daily on the number of complaints. Teachers complaining, just staff, paraprofessionals, office, like people just kind of sitting around and complaining. And as I was coaching on it one day, it occurred to me, why are people complaining? Why is it allowed to complain? Why do we have the permission to complain?

Now, I’m not talking about expressing your feelings, validating how you feel, being acknowledged, being seen, being heard. That is different. And you might call it complaining when somebody comes in and they’re really stressed out and they need to be heard to regulate themselves mentally or emotionally. I’m talking about just the, “This isn’t right, and that’s not right, and this never gets done, and what are you going to do about this? And my thing isn’t working here, and so-and-so said this, and maintenance never comes on time, and technology’s been three weeks.” That kind of stuff where people are just kind of venting out and putting complaints out into the atmosphere, into the energy of your school.

So I asked my client, what is allowing this culture of complaining? Can you think back to a time when people weren’t complaining or has it always been a part of the culture at your site? And we dug in deep and she was able to nail it on the head. She said it was when the construction started. They’ve been in construction for a couple of years, and it, obviously, if any of you have lived through construction at school during a school year, remodeling, whatever is going on, you know how challenging that can be for yourself and particularly for teachers.

Teachers are organized, they’re highly efficient, they are self-independent. They get those classrooms whipped up into shape. They are beautiful. They’re like second homes in there. And when things aren’t working, when the water’s not working, or the electricity goes out, or the internet’s off, or their whiteboard doesn’t work, their Smartboard, or their tables got moved around over the break and now their room’s a big mess because somebody came in to work on the carpets or something, she noticed that was when she felt the shift in complaining.

And what was so fascinating is that I told her the reason that everyone has permission to complain is that you are in agreement with them. You are agreeing that the construction is a pain, that it’s taking forever. You’re just as frustrated. Things in your office aren’t working. And so you are in agreement. So when somebody comes in and sits down and says, this and this and this and that, and you’re like, “Yes.” It’s what we call jumping in the pool. We believe the story. We get in the deep end with them and we all swim around and everybody’s drowning in their sorrows, but nobody is on the sidelines to throw a life preserver to save you from the pain and suffering of the complaining.

If you have the thought or you have the experience that a lot of people on campus are complaining, ask yourself why that might be. What is going on in the culture of your school that allows complaining, that somehow, like, subconsciously gives it permission, condones it, agrees with it? Because when somebody comes into your office and they have a legitimate concern, you can hear them out and then what do you do? You shift the energy. You flip the dip.

This is what I taught in Flip the Fall Dip. We flip energetically the energy. So when they come in and they complain, you can listen and validate, acknowledge that must be really frustrating. I can see why this is annoying you, or I can see why it would be hard to teach under these conditions. What is it you most need right now to feel better? When you ask them that, it shifts them into checking in with themselves. Wow, what do I need right now? And what’s going to help me feel better?

Oftentimes people will say something, “I need XYZ to get fixed.” “Well, I need the whiteboard to get fixed, or I need the technology to get fixed.” Okay, great. Let’s walk through the process of making that happen, whatever the protocol is. And then you walk them through the protocol. And if they say, “Yes, I’ve done all of these things, and the reason I’m coming to you to complain is that I’m frustrated that nothing’s been done.” Great. So we need to follow up. Are you able to do that? Are you able to follow up with tech to get your things online? “I’ve already done that.” Okay. I will call them. Can you send me the documentation of the date that you entered it, the date that you followed up, just for my reference so that I can let them know that this has been going on for you for days or for weeks? But you can flip the energy by not letting people sit and stew in the complaining part.

Yes, they need to be heard. Yes, it’s important to validate their emotions and to acknowledge them. And we want to flip that dip and get them into empowerment energy. What is it you need to feel better, to feel regulated? What would feel better to you as a next step? Do you have that? Can you handle that? Or do you need me to handle that based on, if they haven’t done anything, you would say, okay, great next step is to follow up.

I want you to consider, and I know this, it feels uncomfortable to think that we are allowing a culture of complaining, but what happens is when we are dysregulated as the leader and we are not self-coaching or we are not getting support outside of our team, our staff, we agree with it subconsciously and because we’re complaining inside, we’re feeling frustrated, we’re venting. And when somebody comes in, we’re like listening to them, kind of nodding our head like, “Yeah, I hear you, I feel you. I’m in the same boat.” But if you’re both in that boat, who can rescue? Who can fix the problem? Versus acknowledging, validating them and flipping the switch into empowerment. What is it you need to feel? What can we do? What’s the next best step? How do you make this better? What would feel good today? What is your intention in telling me this? Did you just need to feel heard? Did you need something done? Do you have a question in terms of what your next steps are?

I want you to be empowered. I want you to be able to handle this on your own so that you don’t feel like you have to wait around for me to get to it. If there’s something I can do to empower you, please let me know. Our goal as leaders is to empower people, not to give them permission slips to complain. And 90% of the complaining might be valid, but it doesn’t end at complaining. That’s the beginning. The ending is, how do you want to feel? What do you think would get you there? What are the next steps? How do we overcome this obstacle so we can get you rolling so that this doesn’t have to be a concern for you anymore? Who do we have to talk to? What’s the process? What’s the protocol? What’s the communication procedure? And we don’t let people stew in the complaining portion of their expression, of their situation.

Give this a try. Contemplate if you are allowing people to come in and listen in the name of, “Well, they need to be seen and they need to be heard and I want to validate them. They work so hard.” Yes, they do. And they don’t want to feel helpless. They want to feel like they know how to solve this problem. And if they’re telling themselves, “I’m just too tired, it’s just too much. I just don’t have the bandwidth to solve this problem.” That’s okay. They can sit in the problem or we can spend five minutes figuring out what we’re going to do and then just do the thing and be done with it. Because a lot of times when teachers need something, the complaining is almost a resistance to just taking the next action step. And I’ve done it too. I watch myself do it all the time. I spend more time thinking about, complaining about, resisting than I do just doing.

So I can jump on here and record this podcast in real time as I’m getting off the phone with my client to share this valuable information with you. Or I could think about recording and then think about what we said and think about, oh, I’m going to have to, oh, there’s a new platform I got to upload the podcast on. Oh, I don’t want to have to learn that new thing. So that’s going to, now there’s an obstacle in my way of just getting on here and recording it. Oh, I should probably write out detailed notes.

No. I’m in the energy of a complaint-free culture. So I’m going to speak to it while I’m in that energy, while I’m in the feeling of empowerment. And I have to say a lot of times these are some of the highest-rated episodes where I just come on here off script and I share a specific incident with you because if it’s one person is dealing with it as a principal, I can guarantee you hundreds if not thousands of people feel the same way or are experiencing something similar because the job itself has several universal experiences, and people complaining is probably one of them.

So, give this a try. Let us know how it goes. Have a beautiful week and I’ll talk to you next week. Take great care of yourselves. Happy December.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Creator Mindset: A Reframe for Leadership and Life

Have you ever noticed how kids approach new experiences?

My 10-year-old niece came over the other night to bake brownies. When I asked if she’d found the recipe online, she said, “No, I just created it. I made it up and I want to try it.” Her confidence in her creative ability stopped me in my tracks. Because here’s what I realized: We’re all born creators, but somewhere along the way, we forget.

Join me this week as I explore how we’ve all used this creative ability before. You’ll hear why everything in life is a form of art, including leadership, how your feelings about yourself directly impact your leadership outcomes, and a powerful reframe for those moments when you feel like circumstances are happening to you rather than being created by you.

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • How you’re always creating with your mind, beliefs, and emotional energy.
  • Why teacher efficacy, student efficacy, and leadership efficacy have such powerful impacts on learning and achievement.
  • The difference between trying to control external circumstances versus creating your response to them.
  • How to hold space for yourself while learning something new without self-judgment.
  • Why focusing on solutions versus problems fundamentally changes what you create.
  • The connection between how you feel about yourself and your actual performance.
  • Practical ways to tap into your creative potential during challenging leadership moments.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 415.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Well, hello, my empowered principals. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the magic of December and the holiday season. I hope you are finding this time of the year such a delightful, enjoyable, peaceful time with your family, your friends, the students at your school, your staff members. I believe that this month creates so much magic and it is filled with so much joy and hope and playfulness, possibilities. It’s a beautiful time of year. And I feel encapsulated by it. I’m ravished with gratitude and peace and appreciation and love, looking back at the last year and celebrating all I have overcome, all I have accomplished, the friendships, the connections, the clients, the wins of my clients.

Oh my goodness, it brings me to tears when I think about the impact these people are having on their schools. I think about the places I’ve traveled, the friendships I’ve cultivated, the programs I’ve created, and, you know, the loss in my life, saying goodbye to my dad this year, the day after his 75th birthday, losing my grandmother at the age of 89 just two weeks before her 90th birthday where we had a celebration already planned for her. Lots of loss, lots of sadness and heaviness in my heart, but also so much joy.

Spending time with my son, spending time with my sister and my family, visiting friends, putting some relationships to rest and cultivating brand new relationships. It’s just been a year full of life for me, life and death, actually. And while I am here on this planet, I want to live. I want to breathe life into each and every one of my listeners. I want you to feel alive, to feel the energy of the human experience, to experience all that life has to offer, not just the hard things, but the luxuries of life, the luxury of being alive, the luxury of having the things we have, the people we have in our lives, the experiences that we’ve created for ourselves. There’s so much luxury in our lives and taking a moment at this time of year to just honor that, acknowledge it, celebrate it, it really makes a difference when you take a moment to embrace and celebrate the things in your life that you love about your life, that you love having in your life, and without them, life would not feel the same.

Because we are all creators. We are all born to create. You were born a creator. That is the intention of your life. You were born to create. I was just talking with my niece’s daughter. She came over the other night and we were baking brownies. She had a new creation that she wanted to bake. I asked her, “Did you find this recipe online? Did you see it on social media?” And she said, “No, I just created it. I made it up and I want to try it.” And because I’m the baker in the family, my sister’s like, you can have this one. I do the art with her. You can do the baking. And she came over and we baked her brownies. I let her create this vision that she had. She created it in her mind, and it went from being in her imagination to asking me to come pick her up. I picked her up. We went to the store. We got everything we needed. We came here and we did the work of creating her brownie with the, you know, middle surprise, she called it, where she just put sprinkles in the middle of these cute little brownies. It was the cutest thing.

But I share that with you because I’m speaking with a 10-year-old who is profoundly tuned in to the fact that she was born a creator. She creates the most amazing online characters. She is studying films and animation. She wants to be in that industry when she gets older. And the conversation I had with her really opened my mind, expanded me in ways that some adult conversations have not. But we had this conversation on everything in life is a form of art because we are born creators. And we’re creating whether we’re being intentional about that creation or not, whether we are aware of this ability that we have or not.

And everything we do is an art form. Cooking is an art form, cleaning can be an art form, leading is an art form, teaching is an art form, learning is an art form. Anything we do in life, relationships are art. There’s a dance and rhythm to friendships. We dance together, we play together, we travel together, we go on journeys and experiences together.

Everything in our life is a creation that was created by us. Now, just stick with me on this for a moment because you’re probably wondering, what does this have to do with school leadership? And I’m going to bring this home, but go on this ride with me, okay?

Think back to the experience of teaching. Most of you were teachers of some kind before you became leaders of teachers. You created the experience in your life of being a teacher. You created that. How did you create that? You desired it, whether you were young like me, where I wanted to be a teacher probably by the time I was in third, fourth, fifth grade, somewhere in there. I loved school. I loved my teachers. I wanted to be a teacher. I saw them as being so loving and caring and kind and professional and polished and I really valued my teachers. I valued the experience of learning. I valued being a student. I understood its worth and its value in my life. And I really loved learning because it was engaging and it was fun.

I felt it in my bones when I was a little girl. I actually told my dad, “Dad, when I grow up, I’m going to become a teacher and I’m going to move to California.” My dad was like, what are you talking about? Now, the reason he was so stunned by my statement at this very young age was that I am the first person to ever go to a four-year university in my family. Teachers require that four-year degree. No one in my family had proclaimed or attended a four-year university. I at the elementary age decided and proclaimed I am going to become a teacher and I’m going to move to California.

I grew up in Iowa. We did not travel. We did not have the funds to travel, the means to travel because my parents were working all of the time and we were making ends meet. So we weren’t saving for family vacations or having the luxury of time off to go take vacations and experience the world outside of my hometown in Iowa. I created that in my mind. I don’t even, I didn’t even know the state of California, but something in me created this vision, this experience. I felt called to it. Maybe you didn’t feel called to it until you were in high school or maybe even your first year of college, but you felt called to it and you imagined it prior to being a teacher.

And then from there, from that drive, from that imagination, from that desire within you, you intentionally decided to take the actions that led you to creating the experience of being a teacher. You created this career in education. You chose it. You focused on it. You focused your thoughts, you focused your decisions, you focused your actions. You lasered in on the experience of teaching. Prior to teaching, you desired it, you imagined it, you envisioned it. Those thoughts, those images in your mind, the experiences in your body that you felt before you became a teacher, how you imagined it would feel, what you imagined you would do, the impact you imagined you would make was the energy, the fuel behind you becoming a teacher.

So you believed that you could be a teacher before you did the legwork of becoming labeled as a teacher. You had to declare your major, you had to sign up for all that course work. You had to read all the theories, the pedagogy, you studied, you wrote papers, you passed exams, and you student taught. You embodied the belief in yourself as a teacher while you were becoming a teacher, but you were always creating that becoming. You were always a teacher, but you were going through the steps required to get the label, the credential as a teacher, but you were always on your path to becoming a teacher.

And the same is true right here, right now in school leadership. The same is true in your personal life. As a leader, before you were a leader, you intentionally decided to become a leader. It didn’t just fall into your lap without any thought, any imagery, any imagination, any future forward thinking. Your actions led you to create the experience of leadership. You created this as a vocation, as a passion, as a career. You chose it, you focused on it. And you believed that you would achieve the accomplishment of becoming a school leader before you completed all of that work to become labeled, to be titled as a school leader, to be hired as a school leader in a position of school leadership.

You had to declare it internally first. You created it from your mind, your heart, your body, your soul. You claimed that you were going to be an administrator. You signed up for all that course work and leadership preparatory classes, whatever your path was to getting your administrative credential. You read, you studied, you wrote papers, you passed exams. You embodied the belief in yourself as a school leader while you were in the process of becoming a school leader. But that was always going to be the case. You were always creating your becoming of a school administrator.

That’s very concrete proof in your own life that you have the power and the potential to create any experience you want. And here’s what I’ve noticed, I’m creating whether I’m being intentional about it or not. I can create the outcomes I want or I can focus on the outcomes I don’t want and I can create that too. And good gracious knows, I have done both. I have created experiences that I very much desired to experience and I’ve created experiences that I very much did not wish to experience. I did not desire them and they happened.

You are always creating with your mind, your beliefs, with the energy of emotion that builds up in you as you are imagining what you desire, and that fuels your decisions and actions. Now, the gift of being a creator can lead you in both directions. And it’s something that is very fair to ask. It’s something we want to be aware of and intentional with because you can create confidence and you can create self-doubt. You can create peace or you can create war with yourself, with others. You can create calmness or you can create chaos, internal calmness, internal chaos, external calmness, external chaos. You can create solutions or you can create problems. Sometimes we do both. But you can focus on solutions and create solutions with curiosity and experimentation and exploration, and you can also create problems with excuses and abdication of responsibility, blaming, giving reasons as to why you can’t create solutions. You can create connection with yourself and others, or you can create a disconnect.

I really want you to hear this. If I could instill this understanding in every school leader, I would give you a vitamin gummy full of this and pass it out for free for the holidays. We have been gifted as humans with the luxury of being creators. We create the experience we experience. And this is where people will say, “I didn’t create this experience. This happened to me or this experience happened outside of me.” And my answer to that is yes. There are circumstances out of your control. But what we try to do is we try to spend our effort enforcing control on a circumstance that is out of our control. And that is very frustrating and it’s very exhausting and it’s very exasperating.

We don’t control the circumstances outside of us. We don’t control people’s behaviors, people’s decisions, people’s actions, people’s words, the weather, the traffic, who hires us, who doesn’t hire us. We don’t have full control over other people or the planet, but we do have control and we do create our own interpretation of that circumstance, our perspective of the situation, our beliefs about what is true, people’s intentions, what they made it mean about us, what we’re making it mean about us, and how we respond to these external circumstances.

That is what we control. That is what we create. We create responses to external circumstances. When you don’t get hired at the job you thought was the end all be all for you and they get you to the third round and you thought you had it and then they call you and say, “Thank you very much. We really respect you and appreciate you. However, we’ve decided to go with another candidate.” And you are crushed. It’s not that you could control their decision. You might have had influence on their decision in the way that you showed up, but ultimately, they made a decision outside of your control. What you make it mean about you, what you make it mean about them, and what you do in response to that rejection, to that no, that you can be creative with. That you can be responsive to versus reactive to.

Because the world isn’t fair. It’s not balanced, it’s not even. It’s very imperfect, it’s very messy, it’s complicated. There are things that happen in the world that crush us just to think about, let alone seeing it or having it happen to us. Sex trafficking, child abuse, racism, sexism, misogyny, there’s so many things, war, horrible, horrible events that happen outside of our control. And what’s really interesting if we go meta on this for a second is that the imperfections of the human experience actually are created by the humans. War, humans. Now, nature, right? There is a balance of, you know, prey and predator, and that feels horrible to us to think, “Oh, that cute little bunny is actually the prey for an animal that eats bunnies to stay alive for their existence and that bunnies were put on the earth as consumers of our grass and our gardens, but also as prey.” But the universal balance is there.

Humans, there is, I would venture to say a universal balance, and I believe we create a lot of the unfairness, of the imbalance, of the imperfections, of the messiness. When you think about problems, when you think about chaos, when you think about war, when you think about things that make us highly uncomfortable, much of that is created by humans. But we don’t control the other humans. So when other humans choose to create war instead of creating peace, and they choose to create chaos instead of choosing to create calm, we still have the option to create the experience that we personally want because we are an artist, we are the creator. We can create peace and calm within. We can create solutions and evolutions in our school because it’s ever evolving when we choose to be aligned with our creative energies.

And if this feels like I’m talking way out in left field and it doesn’t apply to school leadership and it doesn’t apply to teaching and learning, and it doesn’t apply to the problems that you have right now that you’re facing at your school right now. Maybe you’re thinking, well, my scores just dropped six points and my superintendent’s down my throat. How can I just be peaceful when my superintendent’s, you know, pressuring me to get the test scores up? I want you to think about how this actually impacts the quality of education on your campus. It’s fair to question it and it’s understandable to doubt it.

And yet, if you were to go on your computer right now and Google leadership efficacy, teacher efficacy, student efficacy, there is endless research on the positive impact of teacher efficacy, student efficacy, and leadership efficacy. And there is an impact of collective efficacy, what teachers believe they can do as a team, what the staff believes they can do collectively as a whole. It has a positive impact on learning, performance, and achievement. Research after research after research article, and then there’s research on the research. How you feel impacts how you perform in sports, it’s true, in business, it is true, in school, it is true, and in life it is true.

You don’t have to believe this. You don’t have to create calm. If things around you are chaotic and you want to feel chaotic, you have the luxury of choosing to feel chaotic. When you see injustice in the world, you may choose to be enraged and let that fuel your actions towards getting justice, creating justice. For there to be justice, there has to be injustice to make justice, right? That’s the balance. And when it comes to school leadership and teaching and learning, how we feel about ourselves, our identity as a leader, as a teacher, as a student, impacts either way, positively or negatively, our results, our outcomes. We create them.

So how you feel impacts how you perform, and how you feel is created by what you believe to be true about yourself, about others, about circumstances, about your creativity, about the truth that you are a creator, and what you spend your time thinking about. Are you focused on the calm or the chaos? On the problems or the solutions? On progress and growth or stagnancy and excuses and reasons why you can’t? This awareness is not intended for you to now go out and try to control every thought. “Oh my gosh, I am the creator. I have to control my thoughts.” It’s not about bypassing the learning curve or skipping over the discomfort of not knowing something or feeling new and awkward and clumsy about something. We’re not trying to bypass the discomfort of learning or the discomfort of being new or the discomfort of being completely out of our element and not knowing something.

It’s to know that when you are faced with something new, when you don’t know what to do, when you’re in a brand new position, when you lack information, when you don’t know how to do something, when you don’t have the skill set, when that does happen to you and your faced with something new or different or something out of your sphere of knowledge, that you do have control of how you treat yourself. You have control over how you identify yourself. You create the experience of being new. Is your experience of being new one of curiosity and lightheartedness and playfulness and delight? I call it kindergarten energy. When the kids first come in, they don’t care that they’re new to school. They don’t label that as a problem. They think it’s great. New is great, different is good. Show me everything. I want to touch it all. Tell me what it is. Teach me. I want to learn. I want to soak it in.

And then the older we get, we get self-conscious that we don’t know and that we should know and that how embarrassed we’ll be if somebody knows we don’t know. And then we act like we know when we really don’t, then we really feel foolish when somebody sees that we don’t know and we tried to cover up that we didn’t know and we do this silly game with ourselves because we’re afraid to just stand up and say, “Look, I don’t know. I’m new here. Tell me all the things. I want to learn. I want to learn to know.” We create the experience of what it feels like to not know, of what it feels like to not understand to be new at something. And we lean into that experience with the mindset of being able to handle being new.

I can handle the discomfort of being new. I’ve done it a bunch of times. I was new at everything one time. I can handle not knowing a skill. I didn’t know how to tie my shoes. I didn’t know how to drive a car. I didn’t know how to ride my bike. I didn’t know how to go on dates. I didn’t know how to pass ninth grade until I did. You didn’t know how to do anything you did until you did it. So of course you know how to handle it. But yet our brains like, “Oh, I don’t want to feel the discomfort that comes with not knowing. I don’t want to be the one who doesn’t know. I don’t want to, you know, have to be new at this.”

It’s being able to handle the discomfort of what you don’t know up until the moment that you do know. I call this holding space. It’s having the tolerance and patience to not know something all the way through until you actually do know, right? It’s, you know, if you go to the gym, it’s like you have to try lifting the next heavier weight until you can lift it. And you can’t lift it 100% of the time until the moment that you can. Or you can only do 10 reps and your goal is 15. And you do 10 reps and then you do 11 reps and then you do 12 reps and you’re still failing until, you’re failing all the way up until 15 reps. And then you get to 15 reps and you’re like, okay, now what? Well, now I want to do either heavier weights or I want to do more reps. It’s just a moment in time that we know.

So we need to implement perseverance for ourselves, grace, patience, compassion while you’re learning, while you’re growing, while you’re expanding your capacity to lead, your expanding your mind, you’re expanding your skills. Empowered leadership is all about the art of tapping into this creative energy, this creative flow. It’s your personal creative genius that can only come from you. No one else can lead the way you do. No one else can teach the way you do. No one else can live your life the way you do. It is striving towards what is possible for you and turning that impossible thing into the possible, riding right on that edge of your potential.

And the empowered principal coaching programs, the one-on-one coaching programs, EPC, which is the group coaching program, my live events that I offer, and all of the different EP leadership series courses that I provide kind of all of carte, all of them were created as both an essential and a luxury. These programs to me are essential in that the mindset and the skill set that I teach, they’re relevant and a part of the school leadership experience, no matter where you are on the globe.

We focus on those little daily interactions that we all have, those commonalities, working with teachers, working with students, working with parents, getting our schedule under control, managing priorities, managing demands, shifting priorities, how to present ourselves, how to communicate, how to build relationships, how to manage our time and planning, how to, you know, all the HR stuff. There’s universal things that we face as school leaders. This program covers all the essentials, and I believe it’s essential for all of us to have access to these conversations around the tangible, practical things that school leaders must learn to do and ways in which leaders must learn to think.

But this program is also a complete luxury because this experience is not a one-size-fits-all. I did not create The Empowered Principal Program from a commodity mindset. I recognize there are major organizations, national level organizations, everybody’s offering leadership support, leadership coaching, leadership mentoring. It’s not The Empowered Principal Program. This is like custom-crafted, boutique, high-end experience. It’s not like going to a conference, here’s the information, now you go apply it. It’s not like hearing a keynote speaker and being inspired but not getting anything tangible. It’s not even having presenters come to your school and present a professional development day with your staff and then going off. It’s not a group of consultants who are going to walk through and check a checklist and then tell you what’s working, what’s not, and what you need to do differently, and then leaving you to do it all. The EP experience, it’s very personalized. It’s custom-designed based on what you need in that exact moment and what serves you and your school best.

It is having a mentor in your pocket right by your side week after week and daily should you need it. So it is a premium tailored experience that caters to you, to your success, to your satisfaction. Because I care more about how you feel than what you do. It’s not what you’re doing. As a creator, it’s who you’re being while you’re doing it. It’s being in the energy of I create this, I am capable, I have the capacity to, I can handle this. It’s how you feel when you’re leading that impacts your ability to lead, how you feel about yourself, how you feel about your ability to lead, how you feel about those you are leading, how you interact with them, the value of your leadership, the meaning of your leadership.

I think about it in terms of other artists, right? A painter who hates to paint, who’s just like, “Oh, takes so much long.” You know, think about like, is it Michelangelo who did the Sistine Chapel? It took him years. Can you imagine working on one project for year after year after year, not having it finished and the space he had to hold for himself to create this masterpiece? And I think the story goes that he even tried to avoid it. He didn’t want to do the project. But can you imagine being a painter who hates to paint and being sentenced to life to paint? Or being a painter who loves certain kinds of painting, but you’re asked to paint like a landscape, they’re not going to go to the painstaking effort of attention to quality when you hate doing something and the detail that’s required versus somebody who loves to paint.

And I think about that with luxury brands, which I believe The Empowered Principal is considered. We don’t have a lot of luxury offers in education, but I want this to be the first. It’s a luxury to have a coach. It’s a luxury to have leadership mentorship in the way that I offer it. And I want people who want this. I don’t want people who need it. I do want people who need it in the sense, if you need it and you want it, you’re here. I think about luxury brands. The same is true with clothing lines, the attention to detail, the type of fabric, the style, the design, the fabric they use, handbags, shoes, cars, hotels, restaurants. You can go to fast food restaurants and get consistent food. It’s consistent whether you’re in Iowa, California, New York, you’re going to get the same cheeseburger. But if you go to Nobu and you want a Wagyu burger with the most premium cheese deliciously cooked to perfection as you like it with all of your accompaniments just as you like it, with the sides just as you like it, and if they’re not, they take it back because you expect perfect french fries, not cold ones, not burnt ones, just right ones.

We deserve as school leaders to have the option of tapping into our creative potential and having a service that offers a more luxurious experience that hasn’t been on the table. It wasn’t on the table, at least to my knowledge when I was a principal and I wanted to create it. I want to call in school leaders who want to tap in to this creativity, who want to take ownership of the experience they’re having and the experience they’re creating for themselves, for teachers, for students. I don’t want to be an educator who believes what other people say is or is not possible. I don’t want to buy into that. I don’t want to buy into the criticism of the educational system, the judgment of everybody else, and to take on those judgments and criticisms as my identity. I don’t want that for my experience. And I don’t want that for your experience.

The Empowered Principal calls in leaders who want to take back that ownership of your ability to create, to create positive experiences, positive interactions, positive connections, positive advancements, not only in academics, which I know we’re all focused on, but also in the human development, in the social and the emotional and the mental and the psychological development and physical development of our students and our staff, by the way, we’re forever evolving.

And so in this way, yes, The Empowered Principal brand is a luxury brand. It’s exclusive in its mindset, in its approach, in its potential, in its craftsmanship, in its study of human development and the human experience as leaders, teachers, and learners, as students. It is cutting edge in that we aren’t trying to solve problems with external products. We’re solving problems through internal alignment with our own creativity and our own potential. So these are the concepts that I am including in the new masterclass series, Luxury Leadership that I am hosting starting today at 4 p.m. Central time.

If you’re listening to this morning, you can come on in to Luxury Leadership. It starts today. It’s a three-day series. Every day, 4 p.m. Central Time. So if you’re listening to this podcast in real time, it’s going to be December 9th through 11th at 4 p.m. Central Time. And I believe that December right now with the magic of the holidays, it is the perfect time to get into the frequency of luxury as it is such a magical time of year. The holiday season feels to me so luxurious in love and friendship and connection and family and time and rest and hope. It’s not even about the luxury of all the gift giving and receiving. That is an added layer. It’s just a bonus, cherry on top to the holidays. But not all families, not all people are able to have that level of luxury in their experience of the holidays, but you can create a luxurious experience no matter what the circumstances. Anyone can experience the emotions that come with luxury. And this is what I’m sharing in leadership luxury this week.

And don’t forget, in January, the mid-year reboot is taking place starting January 6th. And that course will be free for those who sign up for EPC between now and January 6th. So the link to join EPC, which is full year of support, it’s listed in the show notes. And when you join, you get access to all of my past programs. I have them in a library where you can access the replays and the trainings and all of the resources and, you know, worksheets, handouts, booklets that come with those programs. You get access to all the past ones. So if you’ve missed something because you weren’t in EPC before, you still can access it.

And any future programs that I create while you are a member of EPC, you also get access into those. So if this is your first time, join EPC and then you get access to everything. And I’ve been doing this stuff for a decade. There’s a lot of content in there. This is my signature program, and it’s the best value because you get access to everything, you get weekly coaching, and you get a bonus one-on-one call per month. First come, first serve, you sign up as needed.

Join EPC, join this luxurious experience of coaching and mentorship. Join us for Luxury Leadership starting today, 4 p.m. I’ll see you there. Take great care of yourselves. Happy holidays. I love you all. We’ll talk to you next week. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | It's Time to Talk About What’s Happening in Education

Have you ever been in a relationship where you know something’s wrong, but you’re too afraid to talk about it because you don’t want it to end? That’s exactly what’s happening in education right now.

We’re clinging to the old paradigm where we’re the authority figures, students comply without question, and everyone understands the value of school. Deep down, we school leaders know that world doesn’t exist anymore. We’re struggling to articulate the value of what we offer, grappling with the very purpose of school itself, while students and families seem to be questioning whether they’re buying what we’re selling anymore.

Tune in this week to discover why it’s time to have courageous conversations about education’s future, how confusion might be at the root of our exhaustion and overwhelm, and what happens when we finally sit down to talk about what we really want school to look like and feel like. This isn’t about going back to the way things were. It’s about stepping up to the leadership table and navigating the discomfort of not having all the answers while still moving forward.

Luxury Leadership for School Leaders is my brand-new 3-day masterclass that will take you through the concept of empowering yourself through a luxurious school leadership experience. Click here to find out more.

The Empowered Principal® Collaborative is my latest offer for aspiring and current school leaders who want to create exceptional impact and enjoy the school leadership experience. Join us today to become a member of the only certified life and leadership coaching program for school leaders in the country by clicking here

 

What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why we’re experiencing such extreme dissonance between our educational values and daily reality.
  • How to hold space for both the struggle and the privilege of being a school leader.
  • The real reason behind educator exhaustion.
  • Why we’re afraid to have conversations about education’s changing landscape.
  • How to cultivate courageous conversations about what school could look like.
  • What it means to expand your capacity to sit in the discomfort of uncertainty.

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Full Episode Transcript:

Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 414.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Well, hello, my Empowered Principals. Happy Tuesday and, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but happy December. December 2025 is here. The end of the calendar year. My goodness. Wow.

There is so much to reflect on, so much to celebrate, and I can’t wait to chat with you about all of the things coming up in the world of the Empowered Principal, the Empowered Principal Collaborative. I have a couple of great programs that are dropping, a brand new one that’s coming out this coming week. So, if you’re listening to this on Tuesday, my new program called Luxury Leadership for School Leaders, hosted by the Empowered Principal. I have just created this. I am so excited about it. It has so much energy, so much depth in such a short period of time. It’s a three-day masterclass that will take you through the concept of empowering yourself through a luxurious school leadership experience.

Now, I know luxury and school leadership don’t often go together. Your brain does not connect those two dots, but my brain has, and I’m inviting you into luxury leadership, creating a luxurious experience as a school leader. There is so much that I have learned about the value of luxury and the acknowledgment of luxury in my life, personally and professionally, and I want to share it with you. I want to enhance your experience as school leaders. I want you to love your life and your career. This three-day masterclass is going to do that.

And we’re also launching The Empowered Principal Mid-Year Reboot. You guys have heard of this before. I do this every year in January. It’s the mid-year for us. Actually, not even quite. We still have six months to go. And the mid-year reboot is happening in January. You can sign up for that. I’ll have the links down below for you to sign up for those two courses. If you sign up for EPC, the Empowered Principal Collaborative, you will get access to both of these master courses for free. It’s a part of your membership when you are in the Empowered Principal Collaborative. Otherwise, you can just purchase them a la carte and enjoy them individually. But if you want the full experience and you want access to everything, join in EPC.

When you join EPC, you get full access to all of my programs that I have previously offered and any new programs that I develop within the 2026 calendar year. So if you join now, you have access to EPC for a full year, and you’ll have access to everything in the world of the Empowered Principal included in your membership. So, keep that in mind.

All right. I would like to have a conversation with you. If you are listening to this, I am speaking to you individually. It’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to talk. Not because you’ve done something wrong, not because somebody’s upset at you, but I want to connect with you one-on-one here right now. I’m just going to share with you very openly, very vulnerably, and very candidly about my understanding of, my observation of the schools, particularly here in the US.

Now, I know a lot of you are from out of the country and you are observing what’s going on here in the United States, and that’s a beautiful thing for you. And I appreciate your heartfelt wishes and concern as we navigate the political energy in our country right now.

I’m here for school leaders. I’m here to support you. I’m here to mentor, to coach, to be a sounding board. I’m here to appreciate you and celebrate you. And I’m here to be honest and open and vulnerable and real. And I want to invite you into a conversation that’s talking about the truth of what is happening in our schools.

There is a very distinct duality going on, a very distinct contrast going on, and I feel so much dissonance right now. Yes, I’m sitting here talking about how to have a more luxurious experience as a school leader, and I believe that with all my heart that it is possible. I also believe it is possible for teachers to have a more luxurious teaching experience as a teacher. And I think it’s possible for students to have a more luxurious experience as students, as they are learning, as we are learning as adults, as they are learning as students, as we are learning as leaders.

I do believe it is possible to tap into a frequency that is a more luxurious experience in our schools. And I also am very aware of how nothing feels luxurious right now, how it feels very all or none, that everything is falling apart, that nothing seems to be working, that everybody is stressed out. There is an extreme amount of pressure and tension. There is discord. There is conflict. We are in conflict with ourselves, with other people, with other people’s values, with the very essence of why we get up and come to school and why we are educators. We are grappling with our purpose, with our value system, with our intentions, with the purpose of school.

We’re wondering, why do students need to come to school other than compliance? Why do we have such strict laws on compliance? There’s the history of that compliance and there’s the current moment. We’re struggling with articulating the value of what we offer. We’re struggling to articulate the value to ourselves, the purpose of school for us. We’re wondering, what is the purpose of school? What is the value of school? What’s the value for us? What’s the value for teachers? What’s the value for students? And what we have been identifying and labeling and communicating as the value, people aren’t buying. They’re not feeling the value of that offer.

And I’ve been mentioning this over and over throughout the last few months on the podcast. But I think it’s time for us to look inward and sit down and have a talk with ourselves, especially if you feel that you are struggling. If you feel stressed, if you feel tension, if you feel a lot of pressure, if you feel like you’re at your max capacity, if you feel like you cannot handle all of the discord that is happening, all of the dysfunction, all of the dysregulation, it’s time to have a conversation and talk with yourself about why.

Not because you’re going to sit there and beat yourself up and say, I can’t handle this. I’m at capacity. And maybe you are. That’s okay. If you are, be honest with yourself. If you feel you can expand your capacity, if you want to be able to handle more pressure, if you want to be able to navigate, if you want to hold space for the duality of finding ways to be more luxurious in your experience as a school leader while also navigating what feels like the impossible and holding space for the truth of both of those, then we’re in. That’s what EPC is doing.

We’re grappling with the discomfort of school leadership, the struggle of school leadership, but also the beauty of it, the luxury of it, the privilege of being a school leader. We have a platform. It’s time for us to start sitting up at that table, taking ownership and responsibility. We are leaders. It is time that we lead. We lead conversations. We open the door up, not just to talk about, hi, how are you feeling today? You know, have a good teaching day. But to talk about, what are we doing? Why are we doing it? And look, it’s not to say that we sit down and we have all of the answers. It’s to cultivate the conversations, to kind of, you know, I think about, I’ve been really into building fires. I have this beautiful fireplace in the home in which I’m staying right now.

And in this fireplace, it will look like the fire is dying out and the embers are going gray or black out. And if I just take the little poker and I stoke those embers, a flame will reignite or the embers will glow. And I feel like we’re going into education, we’re looking at the surface and we’re like, well, it may be smoldering a bit, but, you know, there’s nothing below. It’s about dead. But if you were to stoke that fire and have a conversation, so much will come to the surface. A lot of energy, a lot of opinions, a lot of anger, a lot of pain, a lot of frustration, a lot of confusion and overwhelm.

I believe there is so much confusion right now. And the reason that we are suffering in the, you know, sense of mental and emotional suffering when it comes to being frustrated, feeling exhausted, being overwhelmed, actually is coming down to confusion. We haven’t had the talk. We’re not sitting down saying, what is the actual purpose? What is the actual function of school? What is the value? And can we increase the value?

We’re not going to go in and change the entire structure of education. I understand. There are schools who are out there trying to make systemic changes, like structural, physical changes in their schedules, in the way they grade. I’ve had several people on the podcast who are out there, boots on the ground, actually changing what school looks like, feels like. So I know it’s possible. And I’m here with all of you to talk about the mainstream, public education and private education too. Charters, all of you are invited to this table. But it is time to have this talk. It’s time for us to talk about how we can be of value, how we can create purpose, how we can reconnect with kids, reconnect with families, reconnect with ourselves, and reconnect with teaching. It’s not going to look and feel the same as it did 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago.

We’re afraid to have the conversation because we are afraid that education is no longer what we want it to be or what we expected it to be. It’s like when you’re in a relationship and you know that something’s wrong, you know that it’s maybe taking a turn where it might not last forever, but you’re so afraid to have the conversation because you don’t want it to end. That’s what feels like is happening in education. We want it to go back to we’re the bosses, you know, we’re the authority figures, do as we say. You know, you have to come to school. You come to school engaged, understanding the value, understanding the purpose. Your parents value it. The adults in your life value it. They support you. It’s just what you do. No questions asked. We’re not there anymore. But we’re afraid to bring that up because we’re afraid that if we do, there might be a breakup with the old paradigm. We’re afraid that things are not going to look the same, feel the same. We’re not trained for what is coming because we went to school 10 years ago, 20 years ago and times are different.

We can put our heads in the sand and try to pretend that education needs to go back to the way it was pre-pandemic, pre-technology, pre-social media, or we can come to the table and have a conversation, explore for ourselves, what is scary about this? What feels off? What am I afraid of? And talking with fellow educators. What do we want it to look like and feel like? What outcomes do we want to create? What do we think would be of service to students in this day and age?

I really believe it’s time we open up and have the brave conversation, the courageous conversation, to be the Brené Browns of education. Can you imagine Brené Brown coming into the Empowered Principal Collaborative? Ooh. She’s my idol. I want to emulate her work and implement it into who we are as an educational society, as an institution, to show up not just for academics, for the humanness of our experience on the planet, to teach children how to navigate the hardest thing on the planet, our emotions, our physical response, that visceral response, the psychological response, the mental, the emotional, all of it.

When we know how to navigate internally, then we can couple that with how to navigate the world externally with the academic skills. We need to couple them together. We’re afraid to do that. Why? Nobody taught us, so we don’t know how. How do we fix that? We get in a program like EPC and we learn. We talk about it. We open up. We listen. We learn. We try it out. We grow. We stumble through it. We are wobbly as we’re learning. We let ourselves try and fail.

I feel so compelled about this. I want to be the voice that speaks up for you, for students, for teachers. But I cannot do it alone. This is a group effort, a mission, a vision that’s bigger than just me. The Empowered Principal world, it’s so much more than just life and leadership coaching. It has a life of its own. It’s expanding into this movement. And I want you to feel like you have a safe place to come and have courageous conversations, not because we’re trying to fix or change ourselves or somebody else. We’re expanding the concept of education through conversation, one conversation at a time, one coaching session at a time, one aha at a time.

So I invite you in. You can join EPC. I don’t usually leave the doors open at this time of year, but with all of the energy going on with the luxury leadership experience that’s happening next week and with the launch of the Mid-Year Reboot 2026 for school leaders, those two things coupled together, I think are going to really take your mindset, your skill set, and your energy to a different level, a different playing field, an entirely different frequency. It’s really time to have this talk. The time is now. I hope you’ll join us.

Join us for Leadership Luxury, join us for the Mid-Year Reboot, and definitely join EPC. I want you to be there having this conversation. Be courageous, be brave. And you know what’s on the other side of that? Empowerment, freedom, and the feeling of complete fulfillment and satisfaction, knowing you are one of the leading forces. You’re the one who’s courageous enough to start these conversations and hold with them, hold space for them, expand your capacity to sit in the discomfort of we don’t know what to do right now. But what can we do? Let’s talk about it. What might we do? We’re exploring. Come on into EPC and gain access to luxury leadership and mid-year reboot.

I will see you all next week. Have a beautiful first week of December, and I will see you next week here at the podcast on social media, which by the way, if you’re on Facebook, I’m doing a Facebook Live 365 challenge in my Empowered Principal free Facebook group. Join us there. If you’re on Facebook, join us for the podcast. Of course, always accessible, always free. And when you’re ready, step into the world of EPC. I’ll see you next week. Take care. Bye.

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