The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | Embracing Change

Do you ever feel like you’re constantly trying to create a calm and consistent environment at your school? As school leaders, we often strive for routines and predictability. But what if I told you that embracing change is actually the key to growth and success?

In this episode, we’ll explore why change is essential and how it can lead to innovation, creativity, and evolution in our schools. I share my own personal journey with change and how I’ve learned to embrace it rather than resist it.

Get ready to shift your mindset and see change in a whole new light. We’ll discuss practical strategies for not only accepting change but actually celebrating it. By the end of this episode, you’ll be equipped with the tools and perspective to lead your school through change with confidence and enthusiasm.

 

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why striving for constant calm and consistency can lead to stagnancy.
  • How change is a natural and necessary part of growth and evolution.
  • The importance of embracing change as a school leader.
  • How to reframe change as an opportunity rather than a threat.
  • Strategies for managing the pace and intensity of change in your life and school.
  • Why showing up for yourself and your emotions is crucial during times of change.
  • How to sell yourself and others on the benefits of change.

 

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Hello empowered principals. Welcome to episode 370. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly Robeck. 

Hello, empowered principals. Happy Tuesday! Welcome to the podcast. I’ve got a short and sweet one for you today. I’m going to talk about how to love change. Because nobody loves change, but yet change is a constant. So, why not embrace it? We’re going to talk about how you as a school leader can learn to love change and embrace it and help others do the same.

Because what we do as school leaders is we spend a lot of energy trying to create calm and consistent schools. And teachers try to spend a lot of energy and time creating a calm and consistent classroom. Calm and consistent feels amazing to our brains. We love calm. We love consistent. And look, it is very important to have routines and habits so that the brain can trust and relax into the knowing of what to expect and what’s to come. So creating calm and consistency is a beautiful goal. It’s one of my goals, personally and professionally.

But what I have noticed in my own life and with my clients is that any goal, even calm and consistency, too much of a good thing is not a good thing. I want you to imagine a world, a school, a life, where everything is calm and consistent. No changes, no surprises, no spontaneity, no dips, no twists, no turns, no change. Just imagine a world that stagnant, that calm, that consistent, that safe. At best, a world like that would be very boring. But at its worst, it’s stagnant. It’s actually death. Stagnancy is death.

When everything’s completely consistent, completely calm, completely expected, completely certain, and there’s no change, that is the start of decline. Everything on this planet was designed to experience change. The planet, as we speak, as you’re listening to this podcast, is changing. The universe is changing. The stars, the sun, all of existence is changing as we stand here on planet Earth. It’s changing all around us, everything. Our bodies, changing. Our children’s bodies, changing. Our school, changing. All of it. And yet our human brain wants to hold on to the belief that calm and consistency is the happiest place on earth, the safest place on earth. So we’re gonna play a little game.

What if for 5 minutes, for the next 5 to 10 minutes that you’re with me on this podcast, let’s just pretend that we decided that calm and consistent is not the only goal in life or with our schools. Let’s say it’s not even the main goal, the primary goal. And what if it wasn’t the goal at all? What if we threw that goal out the window? What if change was the goal? What if the goal was to be different, new, innovative, unknown, creative? What if change was the goal, what about you would be different? What about your life would be different? What about your school would be different? And what about your leadership would be different?

If change was the goal, what about you would be the same? What about your life would be the same? What about your school and your leadership would be the same? Change doesn’t mean everything goes out the window. Change means different, but it also means the same. Change doesn’t happen all at once. Like, your child doesn’t grow up developmentally, and they don’t get all their teeth at the same time. They don’t learn all of the letters and the sounds at the same time. They don’t learn to read all at once. It compounds. The change is slow and consistent and calm and it builds on itself over time, day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year.

So we don’t have to fear change. It isn’t as inconsistent and chaotic as we think it will be. There is a pattern and a rhythm to change.

When you think about how rivers have evolved the landscape, the planet, over centuries, thousands of years, perhaps, and how this earth has evolved and changed, you’re talking millions of years. When you think of it that way, it took a very long time to create those changes, time to embrace the change and to be able to get used to that change, to get comfortable with the change. And it just kept slowly eroding. Like I’m picturing the Grand Canyon, the Colorado River, and I’m assuming that’s how it was created but I know there’s more recent theories, but any river that’s evolved the landscape, it happened over time. Sometimes it happened in a storm and lots of change happened rapidly and it was messy and chaotic. And then other times it was just that trickle of a stream slowly, gently moving, changing over the course of time. But I want you to ask yourself, for this coming school year, how would it feel for change to be the goal?

How would you feel if you celebrated every time you made a change? A small change, a tiny change, or a big change? What if change equaled winning? And that change meant you were living. And that change was the solution to success. And that change means having fun. And that change is a part of evolution. What if change was a part of the equation to everything that we want?

And as I’ve shared with you guys, I’m pretty transparent about my life. Like my life is going through some significant changes. And I will be sharing more of those changes as the podcast comes out, as these events start to unfold in my life. Got a couple of big changes happening more recently, and I’ve got some upcoming changes within the course of next year that are coming up in my life, I can’t wait to share with you. But the plans are still in the works. They’re still tentative. So until I know a little bit more detail, I will hold off sharing them.

But life is all about change. It’s about evolving who we are, who we think we are, who we think we can be, what we prioritize, how we spend our time, how we spend our energy, and how we choose to believe in ourselves, in what’s possible, in the experiences we want to have and create.

Sometimes change is very subtle, but a lot of times change feels abrupt. This has happened to me in my life over the last year. And at first, I was very resistant to the change. I wanted a calm and consistent life. I wanted to stay in my happy place. Everything was curated. Everything had been designed to be efficient and effective and calm, routined, planned, scheduled, all of that.

I think there’s something brilliant about creating that type of life and I didn’t want to disrupt the stagnancy that I had developed in my life because it was so efficient and I felt productive and I liked the certainty of knowing what to expect. But life is meant to evolve and to change. No matter how hard you try to make it consistent, we are designed as human beings to experience change.

And so when resisting the change didn’t scare the change away in my life, then I detested it. I was upset and frustrated and angry and I wanted to control it and take it back to being not chaotic, to being stagnant and calm and consistent.

But I couldn’t do it because life is meant to evolve and change. And so what I finally did was sank into it. I let myself feel the fear of the unknown, the despair of the uncertainty, and the grief of letting go of my need for calm and consistency in my life 100% of the time. And I sat with the feelings that came up, all the fear, all of the uncertainty, and I just asked them. I asked my emotions, what do you want me to know? And you know what? They told me.

And sometimes along this past year, I have been very open to what they had to say. And other times I wasn’t as open. But one significant aspect that I want to share with you is that I never stopped showing up to feel those feelings and to ask them what they wanted me to know. I did not stop asking myself questions. I didn’t hide from my feelings. I didn’t buffer them. I didn’t push them away or resist them. I didn’t stop exploring the emotions and the thoughts that I was having.

I showed up every day for myself. I showed up in my life. I showed up in my business. I showed up as a coach. I showed up in my pain and in my grief and in my attachment. And I asked it, what does it want me to know? And in that showing up, I was able to see how change was not the enemy. I wasn’t a victim to change. It wasn’t the villain in my story, and it wasn’t taking anything away from me. Change ended up being the solution. It was the hero in my story. It was adding something into my life. It was offering me solutions, evolution. It was offering me exactly what I wanted. The only thing holding me back was the fear of the change when right here on a platter it was offering me everything I’ve said I’ve always wanted.

So I wanna offer this to you. Change isn’t a problem and change isn’t bad. No change is the problem. No change is stagnant. It’s stinky. It’s stuck. When you think of something that’s stagnant, I think of like stagnant water or a trash bin that’s been sitting there untouched for weeks. It stinks. It’s sticky. It’s stuck. If you’re not changing, you aren’t living. And if you’re not living, you’re slowly dying.

Change is life. Change is fun. Change is supposed to happen. And look, as school leaders, we ask our teachers to change. We ask our students to change. Change is embraced when we embrace it as leaders. So sell yourself on why change is the best decision or choice you could ever make. How does it change or enhance the quality of your life? How does it expand your experiences? How does it increase your capacity to have impact and contribute?

Embracing change doesn’t mean changing everything at once and creating a bunch of chaos in your life. Embracing change means accepting the truth of it. It’s a universal fact, at least in our humanly experience, in our realm of possibility, what we do know about life and about the planet and about the universe is that it’s changing and that change is constantly in motion. Embracing it allows you to manage it, to take the wheel, to steer it and control how often and when and how hard you push on the gas. And when you tap on the brakes, you do have control over the pace of the change.

Sometimes it doesn’t feel like that because things around you are changing, but you get to decide how much you engage with that change or how little you engage with it. You can have control over your level of engagement. If something in your life is changing, another person is changing, your job is changing, the district’s changing, kids are moving or changing, anything in your life, when all of this change is happening around you, you still have control over how you think and feel about it.

So I invite you that change is just change, it’s neutral. And you can decide that change is for the better, change is for the sake of evolution, and that we are school leaders who embrace change by loving it. We create change by inviting it in and I want to invite you to join us in EPC, which is the Empowered Principal Collaborative. It’s my group coaching program where it is safe to embrace change because we celebrate it, we honor it, we love it, and we leverage change to our advantage.

A brand new calendar year and for us, the mid-year reboot gives us six months to create change that we want to see within ourselves and with our schools. There is so much time, you have so much time, so much energy to make the changes that you wish to experience for yourself.

So come on in to EPC, doors are open in January. I invite you in, we would love to have you. I’ll see you there. And if you have any questions and you wanna talk to me personally about EPC, if you have any questions or concerns, you can simply schedule a 15-minute Q&A with me. I’ll jump on the phone with you and I will answer any questions that you have.

Embracing change and loving it, having fun with it, and not making it mean that something’s gone wrong is exactly what empowered principals embrace. So come on in, we’d love to see you. I’ll talk to you guys real soon. Take care, Have a great week. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | No More Sunday Scaries

Do you dread Sunday evenings, anticipating the stress and challenges of the upcoming work week? You’re not alone. Many school leaders experience the “Sunday Scaries” – that sense of anxiety and dread that creeps in as the weekend winds down. But what if I told you there’s a way to banish those Sunday Scaries for good?

In this episode, I’m diving deep into the root causes of the Sunday Scaries and offering practical strategies to shift your mindset and approach the week ahead with confidence and clarity. As a school leader, your mental and emotional well-being is crucial to your success and the success of your school. It’s time to break free from the cycle of worry and embrace a more empowered way of leading.

Join me as I share insights from my own journey as a principal and a coach, as well as proven techniques to help you overcome the Sunday Scaries and step into your full potential as a school leader. Get ready to transform your Sundays from scary to satisfying and set yourself up for a week of purpose, productivity, and positive impact.

 

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why our brains are wired to anticipate danger and how this contributes to the Sunday Scaries.
  • How to identify the specific thoughts and feelings that trigger your Sunday anxiety.
  • The power of shifting your focus from anticipating negative experiences to embracing possibility and potential.
  • Practical strategies to coach yourself through moments of doubt and worry.
  • How investing in your own personal and professional growth can transform your experience as a school leader.
  • The importance of building a supportive network of fellow school leaders who understand your challenges and celebrate your successes.
  • Why letting go of the Sunday Scaries is essential to your well-being and effectiveness as a leader.

 

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Hello empowered principals. Welcome to episode 369. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly Robeck. 

Well, hello, my empowered principals. How are you doing today? Happy January of 2025. Here we are already in week three of the new calendar year. How is it feeling?

I read somewhere online that people drop their New Year’s resolutions around the 18th or 19th day of the month. And we’re right around that time of year. So if the magic of New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day and the magic of the new year has worn off for you, it’s understandable. And if you want the magic to continue all throughout 2025, come on in to the Empowered Principal Collaborative, where magic is happening every single week, where we drop all of the heaviness and we let go of what’s causing us so much pain and we lighten up and we have some fun and we brainstorm solutions and we feel empowered week after week after week.

I cannot tell you the magic of coaching. It has changed so many things in my life, so many relationships in my life, including with myself, so much more potential that I have tapped into, into who I am and my relationship with myself, my relationship with other people, my ability to put myself out into the world, and to not let fear be in the driver’s seat every single day. Or resentment to be in the driver’s seat. Or the fear of pain. The fear of failure. The fear of embarrassment. That was a big one for me. I didn’t never wanted to feel embarrassed.

And now, here I am, 369 episodes later, putting myself out there, getting, you know, all the love, but also teased, ridiculed, embarrassed, ashamed, people hating on me, people making fun of my podcast, telling me to f* off. I literally got a response that said f* off with all of the letters in the word. And I can handle it. It’s just, it’s such a beautiful, magical experience. I’ve really let go of many things from my past, particularly the last, particularly, how do you say that word? It sounded like I put in 10 extra syllables, but particularly the last couple of years of my personal life, there was something so magical about New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day for me where I genuinely released old pain, old decisions, past guilt, past mistakes, past decisions that didn’t seemingly serve me. And I just decided to embrace the future.

I’m future-focused. I’m looking at what I can do and what could be and possibility and expanding my potential as a coach, as a person, as a family member, as a friend. I just want to live. I want to feel good. I want to be alive and experience all that life has to offer. The highs, the lows, and everything in between. I want to expand my capacity and live the biggest year of my life.

And I believe that anytime I go through a major transformation, my clients get exponentially more powerful coaching from me. And in EPC, that is what’s happening. It’s unfolding before my eyes. The content that I am creating and offering, the coaching that I’m providing, it’s so laser-focused now because I do everything that I invite my clients to do. I don’t make something up and say go do it but I don’t do it, I work through it first.

So I know the challenges of creating a three-month plan because I’ve had to overcome those obstacles myself. I’ve had to notice the weeks that I did plan versus the weeks that I didn’t and the times I did create a three-month plan and the times I just kind of flew by the seat of my britches, right? I noticed what stops me or prevents me from creating a three-month plan. What prevents me from being future-focused? When do I spin out in negativity or in past or separating on the past and replaying the past in my mind and beating myself up for decisions that negatively impacted me but I had no idea back then.

Coaching is magic. I wish I could gift it in a box and send it to each and every one of you. It’s so beautiful. And today’s topic, I hope, is a New Year’s gift to you, although we’re three weeks into the year. There’s several weeks left. And I want to offer you the gift of no more Sunday Scaries. Are you ready?

If you’ve got a case of the Sunday Scaries, I believe that I can provide you with the antidote. So I want to start with just breaking down what Sunday Scaries are. Sunday Scaries, or I used to call them the Sunday Blues because I just felt this lowering of energy, this kind of lackluster bluey feeling where it was like, aw bummer I have to go back to work tomorrow, have to deal with all the stuff tomorrow. And one of my clients said, “Oh, I’ve got a really bad case of the Sunday Scaries.” He said, “I love that term.” So here we are going to eliminate the Sunday Scaries and say goodbye to them.

So let’s talk about what they are, because we’re going to shed light on them. Because just like the monster under the bed, when we turn the flashlight on under the bed, typically the Scaries aren’t as scary as we think. So what are they? What are the Sunday Scaries? When you break them down, it’s really an anticipation of an emotion. You’re anticipating pain, you’re anticipating failure, you’re anticipating effort, you’re anticipating time. Investing time, investing effort, investing concentration, investing problem solving. You’re having to invest energy, like physical energy, mental energy, emotional energy, and you’re anticipating the failure of trying to solve a problem or the failure of a communication or a conversation or the failure of not getting your test scores where you want them or turning a teacher around.

We spend so much time anticipating failure, anticipating pain, and that’s what the Sunday Scaries are. It’s a shift in thinking. So when you think about Friday and you think about Saturday, what your thoughts are focused on, you’re looking forward to the weekend. You’re thinking about going out or being with your friends or your family or resting or catching up on sleep, doing your errands, getting your hair done, whatever, going on a weekend trip, or just cuddling in and snuggling in for the weekend. But you’re thinking about the anticipation of positive experiences, happy feelings, rest, play, connection, engagement, leisure, pleasure, relaxation, you’re looking forward and you’re anticipating positive experiences, positive emotions. And then we get to Sunday and we shift and we start to anticipate and focus on negative experiences, negative emotions, the anticipation of them.

So the Sunday Scaries are really just an anticipation of future negative experiences, negative emotions, just negativity all around or some kind of lack or scarcity, right? I’m not going to have enough time, I’m not going to have enough energy, I don’t have enough solutions, I, as a human, am not a good enough leader, I’m not doing enough, or I’m not being disciplined enough, all the enoughs, right? All the little tis-tasks, should things that we think we should be doing or we should be better.

So we’re shitting ourselves, we’re anticipating pain, we’re anticipating failure, and we’re also anticipating our capacity to handle what’s coming our way, our capacity to handle the upset parent or the gossiping teachers or the two paraprofessionals that aren’t getting along, or having to find subs for the week, or writing up your observations and getting those up to date, or having a tough conversation with somebody who’s not meeting standard, or dealing with a kid’s behavior, or that contentious IEP.

You’re thinking about your ability to handle or not handle anything that comes your way. And so there is doubt that sets in. So it starts off kind of like, oh, there’s all these things I have to do, or oh, these are the things I’m not looking forward to handling this week. And then it gets into like the feelings that come with not being competent enough to handle whatever comes your way. And then there’s doubt.

And then you’re just dreading what could happen, and then our brain kind of goes down this spiral into the worst-case scenarios. What could go wrong at this meeting or that meeting, or what could go wrong with test scores, or this teacher, or the student, or the parent? Then we’re just in this vortex, this spiral of anticipating pain, negativity, failure, and our identity, our self-concept as a leader, as a school principal or as a site or district leader.

Wherever you are on the bus, whether you’re a teacher, paraprofessional, office staff, nurse, custodian, counselor, bus driver, maintenance, technology, superintendent, everybody is a human on the bus of education and we all feel the same. So we all anticipate the what if it doesn’t work, the failure, the doubt, the worst case scenarios, okay?

And I wanna talk about why that happens. It’s like, okay, I can see where my brain’s going down this spiral of negativity or this spiral of anticipation of pain or what’s going to go wrong and it’s really spinning out, getting itself really worked up in a tizzy, right? And why do we do this? We can intellectually see it, but why do we do it?

Well, our brain, its number one job is to keep us safe. It’s wired to keep you safe. It’s protecting you. It’s like, okay, let me anticipate all the perceived danger, all the possible dangers, whether it’s actually going to happen or not. I want to think about it because if I think about it, then I’ll feel it and my fight or flight will kick in and I’ll have to do something about it. I’ll go into fight or I’ll go into flight or I’ll go into freeze or I’ll go into fawning. I’m going to do something to try and protect my well-being.

But here’s the problem with that. Our brain, in its sweet effort to protect us, is anticipating future pain that may or may not even exist. It may or may not be true. It may or may not really be happening. It’s not that it couldn’t happen, which is how your brain is so convincing. It’s like, well, if you step out of the cave, a lion could eat you, or you could get chased by a cheetah or a mountain lion or a big yak could come and attack. Right?

Like our brain is wired for survival, protection. It wants to keep you safe, comfortable, happy, seek pleasure, avoid pain, make things as easy as possible. And in the quest for that, if you’re not safe, if it can anticipate danger in advance to protect you, then you get to stay alive. Right?

And as we’ve evolved as humans, and we’re no longer living in caves and no longer hunting for our food and no longer out on the prairies or, you know, in the mountains and having to protect our physical life from every little thing, our brain goes into protecting us mentally and protecting us emotionally. So it’s anticipating mental strain, mental fatigue, mental pain. It’s anticipating emotional pain because a lot of the work we do as school leaders, it’s not always physical. Yes, you are very physical.

You’re walking around, you’re moving, you’re, you know, probably always tidying up, cleaning boxes, moving off the things, but it’s not a physically laborious intensive job, if I’m even saying that right. But it’s not intensely laborious on our bodies where it feels hard, and I’m not saying it’s not because I’ve been there. It’s emotionally hard. It’s mentally challenging. It stretches our very capacity to keep it together mentally and emotionally and psychologically every single day. It stretches our capacity to feel without giving up, to problem solve without throwing our hands up in the air, to come back day after day with the capacity to hold space for our emotions and other people’s emotions so that we can lead them, we can model for them, we can inspire them, we can empower them.

This job’s not easy. It’s mentally challenging, it’s emotionally challenging, it’s psychologically challenging. It’s testing your capacity every day and it’s expanding you every day. And the Sunday Scaries are simply a way of saying, oh gosh, Am I ready for this expansion? Am I ready for this test? Am I ready to be conditioned again? Go back to the mental and emotional gym and mental and emotional boot camp of being a school leader. And that’s where doubt sets in. That’s where identity work comes into play.

So one of the things we talk about in EPC is our self-concept of who we believe we are as a school leader. What we think we’re capable of, what we think about our skill set, and our experience, and our toolboxes, the resources we have available to us, how we perceive ourselves, how we perceive ourselves interacting with others, that’s our identity. And that work is coming up in the world of the Empowered Principal again this year. I’ve created a program around identity. I’ll be offering that coming up. But if you’re a member of EPC, you get access to all of it.

But identity work is the work where you expand your relationship with yourself as a school leader so that you really do believe that you can handle whatever comes your way and so the Sunday Scaries turn into Sunday Certainties. This is what I’m certain about. This is what I can handle. This is what I’ll do. I want you to think about your brain is trying to protect you and it’s spinning out.

It doesn’t want you to be in any harm and it keeps your fears on the front burner right in front of you so that you can be prepared. It’s like if I keep reminding her or him or they that they are in potential danger, then they’re going to do something about it to keep themselves safe. But the problem with this, as I mentioned, is that it’s not necessarily going to even be a problem.

So what happens is you end up spending Sunday suffering in anticipation of something that may or may not even happen. You spend energy, attention, time, focus, minutes, hours of your life thinking about work on the weekend, particularly the closer it gets the more we think about it. But think about how many minutes, how much time you actually spend on Sunday, or any day for that matter, just passively thinking about work.

The Sunday Scaries are simply about thinking about work. It’s not about working. It’s not about doing the work. It’s about passively thinking about it. Anticipation of work. Anticipation of conversations. Anticipation of tasks and projects and things you need to do. Anticipation of conversations. It’s not actual work. It’s not planning for the work or preparing yourself for the work. It’s not problem-solving the work. It’s not doing the work. It’s just thinking about it.

You’re thinking about what could happen, what should happen, what might not happen, what could go wrong. You’re thinking about other people, their thoughts, their emotional reactions, their words, their behaviors, wondering how to fix it or change it or make it better or to influence people to change and be different than they currently are.

But I want you to invite yourself to let go of those Sunday Scaries because they are literally robbing you from minutes and hours and days of your life. They are unproductive minutes that don’t result in a plan or the completion of a project or a task. They’re not productive in any way. They’re not creating memories. They’re taking away from memory creation. They’re taking away from the experience of a beautiful Sunday.

Think about how you could be spending your Sundays, what you could be thinking about? How you could be spending your time? The memories and the experiences you could be creating. I want you to take a look at your past Sunday. So if you have chronic Sunday Scaries, every Sunday, whether it’s the morning, the midday or the evening, where you start to anticipate and think about and worry a little bit about you’re trying to be present with your family, your friends and your kids. But in the back of your mind, the to-do list is churning up the worry about how you’re going to handle something or the meetings or how you’re going to get this done or there’s too much to do and you got a deadline and oh my gosh oh my goodness oh my gosh. Take a look at the past Sundays like the Sundays before the break or the Sundays right after the break and I want you to notice if the time you spent worrying on Sunday positively impacted your ability to do your job and lead your staff Monday through Friday.

Was the worry, the anticipation of pain, the Sunday Scaries, did it set you up for success Monday through Friday? Or did spending a half a day worrying and feeling gloomy and feeling down and a little resistant and a little angst about going to work on Monday, did it make Monday better for you? Because if it does, if it kicks you into gear and you get some things done, okay. If it actually made Monday better, that’s one thing. But if it robbed you from your Sunday and it didn’t make Monday any better, it’s serving no useful purpose.

For most people, the Sunday Scaries are just denying you enjoyment and pleasure and leisure and the satisfaction of the presence of your Sunday morning and your Sunday afternoon and your Sunday evening. Breaking down the Sunday Scaries is really just looking at what are you thinking about? How are you feeling? Why are you feeling this way? Is there something that can be done or that needs to be done?

Because sometimes the Sunday Scaries are like, oh, we blew this off and it’s due on Monday. Okay, well, since we didn’t do it last week, we have to do it today. So I’m gonna take an hour and I’m gonna knock this out so that I can go back to enjoying my Sunday. And then you feel good. But other times it’s this kind of blanket anxiety or blanket worry or this blanket anticipation that isn’t specific. And the solution to the Sunday Scaries is in the specifics. What specifically are you thinking about? What specifically are you worrying about? Is there something specific that can be done right now?

If so, do it. If not, remind yourself. I’m capable of handling whatever comes my way. I have shown up for the other past Mondays, and I’ve survived. This fear and this worry and this doubt, it’s simply trying to protect me. But here’s what else is true. What I’m looking forward to. What I’m anticipating as a pleasurable experience. What I’m, who I’m looking forward to connecting with. What I’m looking forward to accomplishing this week, how I’m going to feel by the end of the week when I get these things done, how I want to feel going into Monday, who I want to be this Monday.

There’s so much opportunity to look at what could be and what working and possibility and expanding your potential as a leader versus spinning out and stagnating on what isn’t working and what didn’t get done and you’re not going to have enough time or you’re not going to have enough mental capacity or you’re emotionally spent and these people are driving me crazy and I don’t really enjoy my job. There’s nothing. It goes into all or nothing thinking. There’s just nothing I really like.

And you can stew in the Scary Sundays if it serves you, but I haven’t met a person that it’s actually served. It can pop up and you can handle it or you can coach yourself through it and realize that the anticipation of a negative experience, it’s kind of an illusion that your brain makes to keep you safe. But when you’ve got your own back and you have the confidence in your capabilities and you trust yourself that I will handle it however I need to handle it and I’ll know what to do in the moment and if I don’t I’ll seek out the support I need to handle it the best I can in the moment. You always make it through.

Monday can be marvelous. Tuesday can be terrific. Wednesday can be wonderful. Thursday can be thriving. Friday can be fantastic. And Saturday and Sunday can be satisfying and full of certainty that you are one amazing empowered principal.

Come on in to EPC, we’re waiting for you, there’s spots available. We can’t wait to meet you. We look forward to working with you. In EPC, the Empowered Principal Collaborative, I’ve got some real powerhouse principals in there, come join us. We love you guys so much, take great care of yourselves.

Don’t let the Sunday Scaries get you. I’ll talk to you guys next week. Take good care. Bye!

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Purpose of Defensiveness

Do you ever feel defensive when someone gives you feedback or questions your decisions as a school leader? That gut reaction to justify, argue, defend, or explain yourself (JADE) is a natural response, but is it the most effective one? In this episode, we’ll explore the real purpose behind defensiveness and how it may be masking deeper emotions that are uncomfortable to acknowledge.

As a principal, it’s easy to swing between being too nice and too strict in an attempt to avoid conflict or prove your authority. But what if there was a better way to respond to criticism and lead with confidence? Join me as we unpack the layers of defensiveness and discover how to communicate more effectively, even in challenging situations.

By the end of this episode, you’ll have a new perspective on defensiveness and practical strategies for managing your emotions and interactions as a school leader. Let’s dive in and learn how to turn down the volume on stress and turn up the empowerment in your leadership journey!

 

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why defensiveness is a natural fight-or-flight response to feeling attacked or questioned.
  • How defensiveness can mask deeper emotions like self-doubt, insecurity, or fear of incompetence.
  • The dangers of swinging between being too nice and too strict as a school leader.
  • How to pause and introspect when feeling defensive to identify the root cause of your reaction.
  • Strategies for responding to criticism or feedback without getting defensive or aggressive.
  • The importance of allowing others to be wrong about you without always needing to correct them.
  • How to communicate your genuine feelings and set boundaries in a calm, neutral way.

 

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Hello empowered principals. Welcome to episode 368. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly Robeck. 

Well hello, my empowered principals. How are you doing? Welcome back to school. Here we are. Let’s go. Are you in EPC? Why not? I miss you. Come let’s go. It’s the best time we’re having the best time. I want you to be a part of the party. We are killing it this year. We’re doing so much. It’s just fun. I can’t even tell you. It’s my favorite day of the week. It’s my favorite time of the day. I love EPC so, so much. I love these people. I love their brains, their empowerment. It lights me up with so much energy and excitement. I can’t tell you.

I feel there’s a new wave coming into education. We are going to mainstream life and leadership coaching for school leaders. I can feel it. It feels good to feel good. This is what I want for you. I want us to drop down the stress, turn down the volume of the stress and the anxiety and the pressure and the negativity and the toxicity and we’re going to turn up transformation. We’re going to turn up empowerment, evolution, feeling good about yourself, your staff, your students, your school, taking that pressure down, turning up the empowerment, having some fun, laughing a little bit, enjoying your job again, not taking things so seriously, not letting everybody else’s opinion crush you, and turning up the volume on how you feel about you.

And that’s what we’re going to talk about today. I want to talk about the purpose of defensiveness. If you’re listening and you’re not driving or walking, you’re sitting down, I want you to just tune into yourself for a second and ask yourself when you feel defensive, when somebody says something to you and you’re like and your urge is to react in defensiveness, I want you just to pause and think about what that feels like.

I know for me, like I’m doing it right now as I speak to you. And when someone says something to me and I feel that urge to say something right back out of defensiveness, there is a term in therapy and it’s called JADE. JADE. J-A-D-E. It stands for justify, argue, defend, explain. When you feel like you want to jade somebody, you want to justify it, your actions or your decisions, you want to argue back with them, you want to defend yourself and explain, here’s what’s going on, here’s why, this is what I did, da-da-da-da, right? You don’t want them to be upset or they said something to you and you want to fire back at them, it triggers you into fight or flight.

Defensiveness for me really puts me in fight or flight and I will fight. I’m an attacker. I am very good with words. Somebody comes at me, I will want to justify and explain and defend myself, I don’t want to feel like I’m put into a corner or that somebody is presuming to know what I’m thinking, how I’m feeling, why I made my decisions. I will want to get right up in there and pepper them with information or question. This isn’t the best approach. It doesn’t work. I want a more refined approach. I want to have more charisma, compassion, a softness in my approach.

My masculine energy tends to rush in whenever I feel the need to defend myself. Whenever I feel that somebody has said something that puts me on the defense, I will go in to fight. Some people shut down. When somebody says something that’s offensive to them, they might just go into flight mode or, you know, freeze. They just shut right down or they get out of there as soon as possible. Or they fawn, which is they placate you, they kiss up because they don’t want the conflict. All of those are fight or flight responses.

So when you are in the feeling of defensive, I want us to talk about the purpose of it. Defensiveness doesn’t just show up at your door and you’re just, for no reason, you feel offended or for no reason you feel defensive and the need to justify yourself, the need to jade.

I was coaching a client on this and I asked her, I said it sounds to me like when the teacher said that you were being nitpicky, so we were talking about observations, the teacher was like, “Oh, she’s so nitpicky with her observation feedback.” And my client was like, ugh, that feels a little crunchy for me. That doesn’t feel good. I don’t like that.

And the client went into a story about why she was being nitpicky or was, then she started questioning, was she being nitpicky? And I want you to notice something. When somebody says something to you and your gut reaction before anything else is to defend yourself, you feel offended, you wanna defend yourself, pause, first of all, take a breath. But I want you to really stop and think about why we feel defensive.

Let’s say somebody says to you, “You’re very nitpicky in your observations.” And you’re like, “No, I’m not. I have 25 years experience. I know what I’m talking about.” Or “Am I? Am I that nitpicky? I don’t think that I am too nitpicky. Am I too nitpicky? Maybe I am too nitpicky.” Or “No, it’s my job. I’m your boss. I’m not being nitpicky. I’m just telling you what’s right, okay?” So you either get on board or you don’t. Or you justify it with, “well, according to the standards, according to the teaching professional standards, this is what we have to do, right?”

We want to get in there and protect ourselves from being attacked, okay? But the purpose of defensiveness, when you unpeel the layers, defensiveness is a mask. It’s a guard. It’s an armor. You go into fight or flight when you feel offended. Like, hey, that’s not right. You’re wrong about me. That’s not cool. Why do you say that? That doesn’t feel good. It’s like, oh, emotionally, I’m being attacked. This doesn’t feel good to me. The defensiveness is an armor trying to protect you.

So when you’re defensive, when you’re feeling defensive and you’re feeling offended, notice that you have an urge to protect. But I want to ask you what you’re protecting yourself from. When you think about somebody who says something to you and you find it offensive, or you find it attacking, and you feel the need to go on the defense, what’s really happening is that it’s trying to mask another emotion. So frustration is the surface level emotion. And then below the surface is another emotion that you don’t want to feel.

So you don’t want them to be right because that might mean, oh I feel incompetent, incapable, insufficient, I’m not doing this right, I don’t have the skill set. Then we get into identity issues. And most of the feelings that we feel really are an identity issue at the very end of the day. I will just tell you that. That is why we do so much work in EPC about identity.

And when you lack confidence or you feel like imposter syndrome where you’re like, everyone’s going to find out someday that I’m actually not really good or I don’t really know what I’m doing. I’m just faking it till I make it for the rest of my life. Right?

When we don’t feel like we have leadership skills, we doubt ourselves, we doubt our decisions, or we question what we should do, we feel very antsy about something. Usually what happens is we go from one end of the pendulum to the other, where you might come in super sweet, super nice. You just want everybody to like you. You’re a brand new leader. And you get a year of that, right? Because everybody’s given you a year to fill you out.

But they don’t want nice. They don’t want a friend. They want a boss. They want a leader. They want someone who has structure. So you start with being too nice, too gooey sweet, there’s no systems, there’s no boundaries. It’s just like with kids, right? With no structure, no boundaries, no sets of standards, don’t hold anybody accountable for anything because you don’t want anybody to be upset or offended or hurt.

Over there, when you’re on that side of town, on that side of the fence, you get people talking about you that, like, she doesn’t have any boundaries, she doesn’t hold anybody accountable. So the people who are doing their job aren’t happy with you because you’re not holding everybody equally accountable. And the people who are loving this approach, they are loving the approach because they’re getting away with something or they aren’t being asked to be at their highest level. They’re like, “Oh, this feels comfortable. This was easy. This was good. I like her. She’s nice.”

Well, you’re nice until you get feedback and they’re like, well, you need to talk to this teacher and we need to get third grade scores up and fourth grade math doesn’t look that great. Or if you’re in middle or high school, this department’s not working well together. You’ve got to come in and work with them.

Now all of a sudden, you feel like you don’t have any authority because you’ve been their friend. Just like parenting, or it’s just like teaching. Too, too nice doesn’t get results. But what happens is, in reaction to that, we swing to the other side, or we come in hot. Now we’re gonna be strict or we’re gonna follow the standards and everybody’s gonna be held accountable.

And when we do that big swing, people are like, what’s going on? And you’re like, well over here I was being so nice because I didn’t want to have to get defensive. I didn’t want to have to be feel offended at all. So I’m just gonna be super nice. Or over here, I’m going to be really firm, really strict. And now I’ve got to come down hard. Right.

And when you think about what that looks and feels like, it means like I’ve got to be more direct. I’ve got to be more consistent. I’ve got to have clear communication. I’ve got to write people up. And that feels very hard.

Notice, like, what feels hard? What feels easy? And when teachers are giving you feedback, where do you feel yourself feeling resistant or defensive or offended. What’s happening within that is there’s a little bit of part of that feedback that doesn’t feel good to you. Why? Because you believe it too.

When someone says to you like, “Man, you seem really discombobulated this week. Are you okay?” And you’re scrambling all over and you’re thinking, “Yeah, I am such a hot mess.” And you’re like, “No, I’m fine. I’m just really busy this week. Sorry.” And then you walk away and you sink down. You’re like, yeah, because I am a hot mess. I don’t have my calendar under control. I haven’t planned. I don’t have time for anything. I’m putting out fires. I’m a big mess.

Somebody’s gonna find out that I don’t know what I’m doing and then I’ll be exposed and then I’ll get fired. Right? We go to these extremes. But I want you to notice when feedback feels offensive and the purpose of defensiveness is that it’s trying to let you know, hey, there’s a part of you that believes this too, and that feels too painful to acknowledge, so we just attack back, or we just avoid it. We go into fight or flight, we attack or we avoid. We shut down or we just turn away, we dismiss it, we avoid it at all costs.

So go below the surface of defensiveness. Defensiveness is there as an invitation to introspect, to sit down and to say, why am I so defensive right now? What about this comment did not feel good to me? Is it because it’s wrong? What they said was not accurate and I want to tell them otherwise? In that case, we have to learn how to expand our capacity to let people be wrong about us because they can’t possibly know us. They can’t possibly know everything about us. They can’t know every detail that you know when you made that decision. So we have to allow people to be wrong without being defensive all the time.

So is what they said inaccurate and that’s why you feel defensive? Is what they said painful because maybe I believe it’s true and that doesn’t feel good? But we want to explore is that you’re believing it’s true, they’re saying it’s true, they’re really just mirroring to you what you believe about yourself, but is it actually true? Are you really a hot mess? Or was it just an exceptionally wild week?

Do you actually know how to sit down and plan? Of course you do. You wouldn’t be in education if you didn’t know how to plan and prepare and be ready and have a schedule and follow a calendar. You wouldn’t have made it this far. So I know you have the skill. Then it comes down to why am I not getting to it? Or what seems to be feeling off this week? Or maybe I feel off every week. Why is that?

And defensiveness is simply an invitation to ask ourself, why am I feeling defensive? What aspect of this? Get very specific with yourself. Why am I feeling defensive? Is it because it’s wrong?

And I wanted to correct this. Is there a misunderstanding? Is it because I believe it’s true and I’m offended, but deep inside I feel like embarrassed or intimidated or I’m self-doubting or I lack confidence or I’m afraid I don’t have the skill set and I don’t want people to know? Is it because it was rude, disrespectful, which are opinions, right?

When someone says, “Hey, did you gain weight? You look a little fuller than you did last time I saw you.” You might be like, that was totally rude. You’re going to be defensive. “No, I haven’t gained weight.” Or, “Yes, I have. So what’s it to you?” Do you see what I’m saying? Versus, are we willing to let people like, “Wow, that’s an interesting comment. Why did you make that comment?” Or, “That didn’t feel good for me.” Being honest with the feedback versus getting defensive about it.

So someone says something to you that feels offensive and rude, whether it’s true or not true, you might be feeling bad if you’ve gained weight or not, or maybe you haven’t gained weight, so you’re like, “No I haven’t,” and you want to defend. Or, “Yeah I have,” and I feel terrible inside and now you’ve just pointed it out making it feel worse. Versus keeping it neutral and being like, “Nope.” Or, “That’s an interesting comment,” just not responding one way or the other.

But notice, when you feel defensive, there’s something going on inside of you. Maybe it’s wrong and you feel the need to defend yourself and to correct them, and then you have to play that out, correcting them, what’s the outcome of that? Is it just for me to feel better, to feel justified? Or is it something they said that feels true for you, and if it does, we want to explore that.

Or if it’s something they did that, in your opinion, was out of line or disrespectful or rude, inappropriate, you want to be able to call it out, but not from defensiveness. You want to clean up any offensiveness in your body and say, when someone makes a comment like that, why did you feel offended? And get yourself to a neutral space so that you can say, “Hey, I didn’t appreciate the question.”

Or, “Hey, that really kind of stung when you said that,” or simply, “Why would you ask that?” Because then you’re just saying, here’s who I am genuinely. That hurt my feelings, or I’m feeling this way. Why would you say that? Or, “I just want to let you know that bothered me, and I’m curious to know why you asked it.” Do you see what happens? You’re not on the defense. You’re asking them and now they have to justify, explain, defend, argue their reasons. Now they’re on the hot seat for having said the thing. You see the difference?

Versus you lashing at them, you stay in neutral energy, take a breath, take a moment. If you have to take some time away, do that too. If somebody says something rude to you and you can’t quite process it in real time, that’s okay. You can go away, process it, and come back when you’re calm and ready. But flying off the handle and going into JADE mode, which is justify, argue, defend, explain, that usually doesn’t have a net positive outcome for you or for them or for the relationship.

Remember, it’s for us, for them, for the greater good. We want to make sure that our communications and our conversations aren’t held in defensiveness because now you’ve got two people who are both in fight-or-flight and that’s just gonna get into gridlock. Everyone wants to be right, everybody wants to feel better, and they think they need you to tell them they’re right or for you to say you’re sorry or for you to do something for them to feel better. Now we’ve got our steer cycles all mixed together.

We want to separate them back out, stay in our own lane, handle our own emotions first, check in with ourselves. Emotions are just an indicator that we need to check in with ourselves. What am I feeling and why? And then you’ll see there’s some probably emotions under the surface. That’s the purpose of defensiveness is to say, “Hey, hey, Angela, FYI, you’re feeling a little defensive right now. We need to tune in because there’s actually something going on below the surface here.” And then you can get to the heart of the matter and clarify for yourself why you’re feeling offended. Was it just out of alignment?

Was it they just didn’t know what was going on? Or they just don’t have privy to the information? You can let that go. Your teachers will never understand what it’s like to be a principal until they’re actually a principal.

It’s like having your own children. People who tell people how to parent without being a parent, you understand that, right? It’s like this person telling you how to do your job but they’ve never done it. It’s like, that’s interesting, but we get defensive about it.

Well, you don’t know how hard this is. You don’t know how busy I am. You don’t need to do that. They don’t understand it. They can’t understand it. You have to have perspective to see that they don’t have perspective.

So try this. See how it works. Let me know. Come on into EPC. I teach you this. I will walk you through it because there’s one thing to understand it intellectually to know the what. But the how is where it’s hard. It can feel hard. It’s emotionally hard. It’s mentally challenging, but you’re expanding and you’re growing and you’re transforming into the most beautiful empowered leader when you do this work.

Come on into EPC. I’ll see you there. Take good care. Have a great week. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | Take Shoulds off the Table

Can you believe it’s already 2025? I’m thrilled to kick off this epic year with some exciting personal news that I’ve been dying to share with you. As you listen to this episode, I have just relocated to Nashville, Tennessee to be closer to my son Alex. It’s a big change, but one I’m embracing wholeheartedly.

The last few years have brought significant shifts in my personal life, and I’m so grateful to have had the support of coaching to navigate the intense emotions and challenges that came with it. Coaching has been an absolute game-changer for me, allowing me to rewrite the script, find joy amidst the pain, and come out stronger on the other side.

In this episode, I also dive into the power of shifting our focus from trying to change people to looking at the systems in place. When we take the “shoulds” off the table and instead get curious about what is actually happening and why, we open the door to more effective problem-solving and solutions. It’s a mindset shift that can transform the way we lead and support our teams.

 

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • How coaching has been a lifeline for me during challenging personal times.
  • The transformative power of coaching for school leaders and their teams.
  • Why trying to convince or control others is ineffective and what to do instead.
  • How to shift from focusing on changing people to examining systems.
  • The problem with having a “mental manual” of how everyone should behave.
  • How to neutralize frustration by taking the “shoulds” off the table and getting curious.

 

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Hello empowered principals. Welcome to episode 367. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly Robeck. 

Well, hello, my empowered principals. Happy New Year. Happy 2025. Can you believe it? 2025. It’s going to be an epic year. I can feel it in my bones. I am so freaking excited about 2025, and I’ve got some exciting personal news to share with you that I’ve been dying to tell you all, but I wanted to wait to make sure it was actually going to happen. So I’m recording this right before Thanksgiving, so I am being premature in my announcement, But by the time you hear this, it will all have taken place. Are you ready for it? Here we go.

As you’re listening to this podcast, in January of 2025, I have just relocated to Nashville, Tennessee. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud. So as I’m saying this, it feels weird because I’m not leaving for two more weeks. But by the time you hear this, I will have already relocated to Nashville, Tennessee. And there is such a big story behind this, one that’s very personal, it’s very intimate, it’s still a little bit raw, had a lot of family changes and situations come up over the last few years, and I am now single, and I have decided that I want to be closer to my son. My son, Alex, I have one son, his name is Alex, he’s 25 years old. He relocated from LA to Nashville in 2023, so he’s been there for a year and a half now, and he loves it there.

I don’t know that it’s his forever home, but it’s a for now place. It’s a wonderful place. I have visited many times. He has friends there. He’s got a job there. He wanted a change of pace. He wanted to experience something outside of California before he settled down. California was all he knew. He was actually born in Minnesota, but when he was three months old, we moved back to California. We had a two-year stint in Minnesota between living in California.

Anyway, he was born in Minnesota, but we moved out here when he was three months old. So he’s a California boy through and through. And we love it out here. I love California, but I also love exploring and trying new places and being in different parts of the world with different kinds of people with different experiences, different landscapes, cuisines, weather, I don’t know, mindsets. And I just think it’s going to be a fun adventure.

So I’m definitely committing to one year in Nashville. And for all of my coaching friends who live near the East Coast, I can’t wait to get together with all of you, my friends and family. I have friends and family on the East Coast. I have friends and family in the Midwest. So I’m just thrilled for this new chapter of my life, for the adventures that are to come, the memories I’m going to create. And here’s what’s so fascinating, and can I just tell you something? I will share more about my personal story as I am healing and moving forward, but one of the things I want to offer to you is I don’t feel I could have gone through what I went through without coaching. I don’t know how I would have gone through it.

I’m sure I would have gone through it, but the ability to have a coach to talk through the intensity of emotions and thoughts and the dysregulation in my nervous system at chronic levels, it was for months upon months upon months to be able to navigate that and to regulate myself and to still wake up in the morning, find joy in the day, to rewrite the script of the things that unfolded in my life and to make them a plot twist and to make them not mean anything about me or anything about anybody else, but to embrace that plot twist and see it as an opportunity, see it as the path I was always meant to take, and to show up with so much gratitude even in the midst of grief and pain and loss and suffering. I cannot imagine.

Sorry guys, I’m getting a little emotional here. I’m just going to share that raw with you, but I cannot imagine life without a coach, life without someone to process incredibly painful feelings and to come out on the other side, stronger, wiser, more conditioned, my capacity to handle emotion, my capacity to get up and live my life, no matter what comes my way. I am, I feel like a superhero coming through this. I am so proud of myself. I am so grateful for my coach. I am so honored and I’m so humbled by the love that has poured out from family and friends. As I enter into this new phase of my life, and I just want to share it with all of you because I know there are thousands of you listening to this podcast every single week. You know my voice, you know my story, I am as transparent as I can be.

And I am so honored to share this with you because it really is a spectacular, exciting change in my life. And I will tell you what’s even greater than all of that. Anytime I go through a major upgrade, up-level transformation in my life, it transforms and expands my capacity to coach. What’s happening in EPC this year is phenomenal. I have just upleveled in a way that’s extraordinary. And the people that are in the Empowered Principle Collaborative EPC, they are extraordinary. They are getting results. I had somebody just the other day say to me, Angela, I am so grateful that I found you when I did. I wish I had found you five years ago, but I’m grateful that I’m here now. I’m not going anywhere. We’re just getting started. People are so grateful to have a group where they can come in and be coached. There’s also one-on-one sessions for the EPC clients so they can work with me one-on-one and in the group. That’s a bonus that I added. And it’s magic. It’s pure magic.

So I am so grateful to have had coaching throughout my life. I will never not have a coach. And I’m so grateful to be a coach because I see the relief it provides people, the transformations that it brings to people. There’s goals and accomplishments and yes we accomplish goals we achieve great things but it’s about how it feels it’s about getting through the hard times with grace and with skill and being able to navigate the toughest of situations and to condition yourself to be able to handle them and to regulate your nervous system and to come out on top to be so much stronger than you ever thought you could be. It’s brilliant.

And the beautiful part about this is that the way that you feel about yourself, the confidence you gain, the pride you have in how you handle yourself, being the most emotionally mature person in that room at all times, being able to handle yourself, being able to communicate respectfully and concisely and articulate exactly what it is that you need and that you want and to be able to let yourself have those emotional meltdowns and get that energy out. It’s just so remarkable and if there’s any wish I could give to the world, if I could hand out presents, I would give everyone the gift of coaching. There’s nothing else like it in the world.

For those of you who are listening and you’ve never tried coaching, this is your opportunity to jump into EPC. I open the doors mid-year, so throughout the month of January you can jump in mid-year. You start in January, you’re going to get a full 12 months when you sign up. You get access to all of my content, all of my coaching, all of my past trainings, past workshops, the workbooks I’ve created, the resources that I’ve created for school leaders. You get everything. It’s only $19.97, under $2,000 for the entire year, for the entire membership, for weekly coaching, for one-on-one coaching, for all of the resources. And I just feel like it’s such a value. If I were to price it on the market, I think it would be ten times its value. But I want it to be accessible to everybody. I want everyone who feels compelled to have a coach to come on into EPC and just experience the magic of coaching.

And I promise you, we’re going to do a session with the clients of EPC, because I know I’m the coach, of course, but you can take it from them. They are creating transformations, and I can’t wait for you to hear what they have to say about the magic that has been created in their own lives, their own empowerment, them stepping into a version of themselves that they are so proud of and that they feel capable of regulating in any circumstance. It’s spectacular. Okay, so that’s what’s going on with me.

As you hear this, I’m in Nashville with my son. We’re living the dream, having so much fun. EPC is popping. The doors are open. Come on in. I am going to be giving 10x to the empowered principal world this year. So watch out. I’m bringing it this year. So this is the perfect time to get in. Okay? I want to shift gears. Actually, not even shifting gears. This is right in alignment with what I’m talking about. I was coaching a client the other day and the conversation started off with her not feeling great about a comment that a teacher leader made.

There was some teacher leaders going to a conference and these teacher leaders were expected to go to the conference and learn all the things and then come back and teach all the people and change the world. The teachers made a comment to the principal saying like, I’m nervous about this. I think we have some teachers on our staff that they’re not pulling their weight or they’re not going to do this thing that we have to come back and teach. And I want you to think about this for a second. As leaders, we know the pressure of being a leader and feeling like we have to be expected to convince, coerce, inspire people into action. We have to figure out how to do that.

So we try to convince them and we try to, you know, sell them hard on why they should change and create buy-in. And that feels difficult to do because when we’re coming at it with the energy of I need to convince this person, I need to manipulate them, I need to control their thoughts and feelings and actions. It doesn’t land for people. Nobody wants to be controlled or convinced or to be sold to something that they don’t believe in, okay?

We love to buy into things that we believe. We love to buy things we want. We love to buy things that we believe are the best thing for us, for the kids. We love that part. We don’t love it when somebody is selling us something where we don’t think is the right thing, okay? So, I want you to think about the pressure that school leaders are under to create actual leadership where people are following their lead, like they are stepping into the vision that you’ve created and developed for your school. They are sold into that mission. They are on the same team when everybody’s flowing. That it’s a masterpiece. It’s a work of art. It’s a skill set that’s developed over the course of time within yourself as a leader.

So when your teacher leaders are nervous because they’re going off to a conference and then they’re being expected to lead the teachers, they know the teachers well. They know who tends to lean into resistance and who tends to jump on board and do the things. There’s a lot of pressure on them. So they’re nervous because they’re feeling that intensity of leadership, what it feels like to need to be a leader and to now be expected to have people follow their lead. So as I was coaching with this client, we started shifting the conversation from focusing on changing people to focusing on systems that are working versus systems that are not. So instead of seeing the humans on campus as being faulty, as being the ones needed to be changed. We look at systems.

What’s working systematically? What’s a little crunchy? What needs to be adjusted? What do we think will make this part that’s not working so great feel better for kids, feel better for us, feel better for the school? We look at systems versus people. People aren’t the fault. People are people. People are human. Humans have flaws, but they’re not faulty. They don’t need to be changed and fixed or reprogrammed, programmed, right? We want to look at the systems in place, okay?

So, when you’re thinking about leadership and you’re working with people, the human brain will say things like this, well, teachers should do it this way, or we should be getting on board, or we should be doing this, or we should be doing that. Kids should be getting into class, wanting to come to school, sitting down perfectly, listening to teacher, doing their homework, should, should, should, should, should. Any time a teacher or a student doesn’t follow the shoulds, I call this a mental manual. We have this mental handbook of how children should behave, how teachers should behave, how paraprofessionals should behave, how office staff should behave, how our counselors, nurses, bus drivers, lunch duty, yard duty. We have a manual for how everybody should do things and how we should do things. And then when people don’t do the shoulds, there’s a gap between what they’re doing and what they should be doing or shouldn’t.

Kids shouldn’t be disrespectful. Kids shouldn’t get out of their seats. Kids shouldn’t, whatever, touch each other. We have all of these shoulds and shouldn’ts. Now, I’m not saying, no, don’t have rules. I’m not saying we don’t want to have a set of standards and practices and boundaries and consequences for non-appropriate behavior. What I’m saying is when there is a teacher that we’re labeling as resistant or that somebody is not behaving in the way that we would like them to, our brain is like, well, they should do this. They shouldn’t do that. Okay. I’m going to speak to this in terms of students, because I think it’s easiest to wrap your head around it. 

When you have a child in a classroom and they are not behaving in the way the teacher wants them to behave, they’re not in alignment with the rest of the class. Let’s say we have one student who’s dysregulated, maybe to an extreme measure, maybe they’re never sitting down or they’re wandering around or they’re touching things that they shouldn’t be touching, right? And they’re not behaving in a way they should. We can sit down as teachers and principals and parents and say, look, here’s what should be happening, but they’re not doing that.

Instead of putting all the shoulds on the table and all the shouldn’ts on the table and then discussing what’s not happening, basically like here’s what should be happening and here’s what shouldn’t be happening but here’s what is happening, I invite you to take all of the shoulds and wipe them off the table. Here’s why. 

When you think that a teacher or a student should be doing something but they’re not, how do you feel? You’re very frustrated. You get upset. It’s frustrating, you might be angry, you might be discouraged, you might be disappointed, but you’re going to feel a negative emotion. And now you are dysregulated. When you think this should be happening, this shouldn’t be happening, you’re going to feel very frustrated, angry, upset, something along those lines. But if you take all the shoulds off the table and you’re like, what is happening? Not what should be happening or what shouldn’t be happening, but what is happening? So when you have a student or a staff member and you’re thinking to yourself, they should be doing this or they shouldn’t be doing this, we wipe all of those shoulds off the table and all of those shouldn’ts and we just say, what is? What is happening?

Well, what’s happening is the student is getting up out of the desk and walking around the classroom when the teacher is teaching or the students are supposed to be working. So student A is sitting, student B is sitting, student C is sitting, student D, E, F, G, sitting. Student Z is walking around. Oh, okay. When they shouldn’t or they should, when those are gone, we’re just talking about what is, now you’ve neutralized it. Student is getting up out of chair. Then the question becomes why? We remove all of our frustration when we take away the shoulds and shouldn’ts and we look at what’s happening, why it’s happening, what we speculate might be happening, and here’s what you’re doing.

You’re getting your emotional regulation system neutralized so that you can problem-solve by looking at the specific details of what the student’s doing, why they might be doing it. We’re studying the student’s steer cycle. For every behavior, there is a reason. We might not understand the reason, we might not like the reason, we might not know the reason, but there is a reason in a student’s mind. When they get up and they wander about class, they have a thought, they have an emotional energy in their body that compels them to get up and move around. Instead of saying you should do this and you shouldn’t do that. Why? Because I said so or because that’s the way it should be or because the other kids are because the teacher’s frustrated, right? You see where this is going.

The kid has no interest because they’re listening to their own internal compass and their body is telling them to move about the cabin. They’re moving about. They feel compelled to do it. There’s an energy in that body that says, move right now. I can’t sit here. I don’t want to do this work, or I feel completely restless right now, or I don’t understand what the person’s saying, or I don’t speak this language, or I don’t know how to write this down. We don’t know, but we want to study it, not from a place of should or shouldn’t, but from a place of what is.

And what I have found to be true is that if we stop and notice teachers that are resistant, we should say, well, they shouldn’t be resistant. No, but why are they resistant? Why might they be resistant? What do we speculate? We can’t know unless we ask them directly, but it changes how you feel. You shift from being frustrated, mad, and upset, and what am I going to do about this, and how am I going to fix this teacher who’s so resistant, into why might they be resistant? Well, resistance is usually in armor, and I can do a whole podcast on resistance being in armor, but If we take off the shoulds and shouldn’ts, all of a sudden you have a teacher who, well, they are receiving feedback and not applying it, or they are asking for input, but then they’re rejecting it.

You know how people will say, like, I need help with this, and then you give them five ideas, and they’re like, yeah, but that, oh, I tried that, but yes, but, yes, but, yes, but, you might have that. Why might somebody be doing that? Then you’re into problem-solving mode. The solutions are in the specifics. Our brain wants to go into ambiguity. They should be doing this, but they’re not. But we don’t, well, why? Let’s speculate, let’s wonder, let’s ponder, let’s contemplate this. Take the shoulds off the table, focus on what is, and ask why, contemplate that, and dig deep into the specifics. you will find yourself much less in frustration and much more into curiosity, which brings you to solutions.

Take the shoulds off the table. Happy New Year. I love you all so much. If you live near Nashville, let me know. Let’s meet up. I would love to meet you in person. Have an amazing 2025. Come on into EPC while the doors are open. You will not regret it one minute. It’s a blast, we have so much fun, and you feel better about yourself, about your staff, your students, and your school. Come on in. Happy 2025. I’ll talk to y’all next week. Take care. Bye!

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