The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | Beyond the IEP: Building Stronger Parent-School Partnerships with Youness El Fehdi

Supporting students with disabilities requires more than following a plan. It requires trust, communication, and strong partnerships between families and schools.

In this episode, I talk with Youness El Fehdi, author and parent advocate, about his experience navigating the education system as the father of a child with autism. We discuss the importance of collaboration between parents, teachers, and school leaders, how to approach IEP conversations from a place of partnership rather than blame, and why parents bring valuable insight that can help educators better support their students.

Tune in this week to discover how building stronger parent-school partnerships can transform the way we support students with diverse needs. You’ll learn how to approach IEP conversations with more collaboration, recognize the value of the parent perspective, and create a school environment where families and educators work together toward shared goals.

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why collaboration between families and schools is essential for supporting students with disabilities.
  • How the parent perspective can provide valuable insight into a student’s needs and experiences.
  • Why approaching challenging conversations with understanding is more effective than blame.
  • How consistent communication between parents, teachers, and school leaders can strengthen relationships.
  • The importance of flexibility when supporting neurodiverse students.
  • How educators can create more welcoming and inclusive experiences for families.
  • Why listening and partnership are key to creating better outcomes for students.

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Angela Kelly: Hello, Empowered Principals. Welcome to episode 452. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not-so-typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Hello, Empowered Principals. Happy Tuesday and welcome to this episode of The Empowered Principal® Podcast. I have a guest for you today. We’re going to talk about a very interesting topic, a topic that’s relevant for both students, staff members, families, and school leaders. And I have Youness El Fehdi here today to talk with us about the IEP experience and what it feels like on the parental end to have conversations around 504s, IEPs, students with disabilities, and how to navigate those conversations in a way that is a win-win. 

I like to call it a win-win, where it’s the land of and, it’s a benefit for obviously the student, but also for teacher, for school leader, and for the parents. We want to keep in mind as we’re entering into this new school year, the experience of a family coming into our school and needing to navigate the experience of supporting their student in whatever learning capacities and supports that they need. So, Youness, welcome to the podcast.

Youness El Fehdi: Thank you, Angela, for inviting me.

Angela Kelly: Could you please tell the listeners a little bit more about you and your background and how you came to write a book on this very topic?

Youness El Fehdi: We had a boy. His name is Adam. And the first couple of years, the first two years, everything was normal. But about two-and-a-half-year-old, we started noticing that the eye contact is not there and the food, he was not eating a lot of food. I mean, he was eating just one type of food. We decided to go, you know, start asking questions, and the doctor back then told us you might want to check with a doctor for to diagnose he might have autism. 

So, we went over to the doctor and did the diagnosis. He was diagnosed with autism. Back then, we didn’t have any idea what is autism, what’s going on, how we deal with autism. So, it was a kind of an experience that made me think about seeing how difficult that experience was. That’s what inspired me to write the book.

So, after doing a lot of researches and going through a lot of experience, after learning by research and by experience, like learning the hard way, two years after the maybe, what was 2019, like two, three years after the diagnosis, after going through all those experiences, I decided to share my story with specifically the parents that’s going through the same experience that I went through. And they can benefit from it and save time instead of going the going through it the hard time. And sometimes you learn, sometimes you don’t. And everybody’s condition or circumstances is different. So, I decided to write that book to share my experience. So, we put Adam in therapy.

Angela Kelly: How old was he at this point?

Youness El Fehdi: We put him in therapy. He was like three years old.

Angela Kelly: Okay. So he was quite young.

Youness El Fehdi: Yeah, he was quite young. And that therapy is what saved Adam’s, you know, saved him. He started getting like eye contact, and they started experimenting with some food, and his behavior improved. And like my advice to all the parents out there with kids with autism is just get them to therapy as early as possible. The longer you wait, the more difficult will be for your kid to develop skills and match and match his kids with his age, his or her age. So, early intervention is very important for the kids. And then after that, here comes the school experience.

Angela Kelly: Yes.

Youness El Fehdi: So going to school, we enrolled Adam in school in kindergarten and the first day we started getting calls from the teacher. I told Adam to do this. He didn’t do this. I told him to go here. He didn’t do that.

Angela Kelly: How did that feel as a parent to receive those phone calls? Because he was just a kinder at that point, right? He was in kindergarten?

Youness El Fehdi: Yes.

Angela Kelly: Yes.

Youness El Fehdi: It feels that there is a lack of understanding of how to deal with kids, neurodiverse kids. And with that, I don’t blame that teacher, but it should be like some type of training or enough training for those teachers to understand how to deal with kids with autism or any other type of disability. That would have prevented that issue of calling the parents every day, like, “Hey, come get your son.”

On the parent’s side, this is the challenges. You know, we all have jobs. So you got jobs, you got to work, this and then that interruption, a daily interruption, cause a lot of problems.

Angela Kelly: Mmhmm. So how did you navigate that as a parent?

Youness El Fehdi: We asked for an IEP meeting because at that point we already had an IEP in place. So, we went for that IEP meeting and we discussed with the school, the school committee, and we talked about what’s the issue, what’s like, they said that Adam was having meltdowns. So, they showed me a video of him having a meltdown.

What I noticed in that video that, first of all, there were 30 kids around him, and when he was having that issue, the teacher was just saying, “Stop.” So, “What do you suggest we do in cases like this?” I said, “First of all, we got to isolate him when he’s having a meltdown because the more people around him, the worse he gets. That’s the first step. And then just give him time. Give him like about 15, 20 minutes by himself, and usually that meltdown goes away. It don’t stay forever.”

They noted that, so after that, it got a little better. What I noticed is just the training, because sometimes even you get a certified teacher, especially if they’re new to the job, they don’t have that real experience with disabled kids. So, there is something in the book, but they never went through it. So, for the teacher’s credit, I will tell parents, don’t be impatient at first because at first, their the teachers are still getting used to your kid because autism is a spectrum. Not everybody is the same.

So, it’s normal to have issues during that beginning phase. And then all you got to do as a parent is to give the teachers advice because you’re more qualified to advise a professional because you got the edge. You got that little edge, which is the real-life experience with your kid at first. So, with that specific teacher, throughout the day, throughout the month, it got better. She started understanding what triggers him, what appeases him, and it got better throughout the years.

Angela Kelly: Mmhmm. That’s wonderful. So, as frustrating as it may have been in the beginning for both you and your child and the teacher, because everyone was new. It was a new situation. The teacher wasn’t, was new to your child and your child was new to school. And so, there was a little bit of confusion there in the beginning, but it sounds like with patience, both the teacher, the patience of the parents, you guys were able to communicate and work together by calling an IEP meeting and saying, “Hey, let us inform you of what we know works.” And give it some time and patience. And they implemented that.

And all of a sudden, we start to see this collaboration between parent and school, parent and teachers and the IEP team, where with just a few conversations, you were able to come up with a plan and an approach for Adam that was more comfortable for him in the long run.

Youness El Fehdi: Yes. I think what causes all the friction between parents of disabled kids and teachers or school administrators is, is instead of collaborating, there’s the blame game. Like if the teacher call for your kid and you go over there with that attitude of like, “Oh, she’s incompetent. She doesn’t know her job.” This and that. 

And you just go there and you just start saying all that, that’s going to make the problem worse because with that attitude, the teacher shut down. So, it takes step by step, like to tell them how your kid operates in this life because you got the inside knowledge that they don’t know.

Angela Kelly: Yes. Yes.

Youness El Fehdi: And then after that, it’s get better. But when we go there with that attitude of like, “I demand this and that,” but you can demand all day long, and if you don’t give them a clear picture of how to deal with your kid, the problem’s just going to persist. And that’s my advice for the parent. You just communicate. I know it’s frustrating, and I’m saying it from experience because I was one of those parents that goes over there and…

Angela Kelly: Well, that’s all you knew.

Youness El Fehdi: So, I’m not saying that blaming those parents for that either, because they’re frustrated, they’re interrupted, they see their kids cannot cope with the new school life, and it’s all come one time. They’re disrupting their job and their life and their and then they see your kids there’s no, they don’t see the lights at the end of the tunnel. But from my experience, if you communicate and you keep now, we do like a daily, like almost every two, three emails a week with the teacher. This is what he did at home, and they said, this is what he did in school, and we try to come to a common ground to how to deal with him.

But that’s my advice for the parents because to go over there during the meetings and there’s friction and blame this, blame that. The teachers feel they’re not heard. So, they start resisting. And then the parents feel the same thing that they’re not heard and they start resisting and the conversation don’t go anywhere. So, it’s all about understanding and listening to each other.

Angela Kelly: Yes. Yes. You make such a valid point. And it sounds very simple because it sounds, you know, you would intellectually, it’s like, of course, let’s listen to the parents and we’ll listen to the teachers and we’ll work together and get along. But you said there’s the element of life, where, you know, you’re expecting your kid to be able to fit in, and you want your kid to feel safe and be happy and fit in at school and be able to do the things that the classroom is doing.

And you also have this whole life outside of parenting while your child is at school, you’re building a business, you know, running a company or doing whatever work it is that you’re doing out in the world and expecting your child to be in their element while you’re in yours, and then having that interruption can bring up frustration in the lives of parents. And teachers are feeling the same way. They’re feeling like we’ve got to come together somehow and figure this out because it’s interrupting the classroom. So, while it sounds simple, it’s not easy to do when emotions are running high.

Youness El Fehdi: Yes.

Angela Kelly: For both sides. So, as you’re thinking about your IEPs are all coming in for the school year, you’ll have new families coming in with new IEPs. And you’re, you know, your little ones, if you guys are elementary principals out there, you will have students coming into pre-K, TK, kindergarten with IEPs already because you can get an IEP from a very young age. So, that might be something worthwhile to check in with each and every family to see if they have an existing IEP so you have a foundation in which to start conversations and to call that meeting together right from the get-go so teachers don’t feel misinformed or uninformed around the best approach for a student.

And vice versa, I think it’s a great way to and I’m proud of you for being a parent who called the meeting and said, “Hey, we need to have this discussion.” So, if you’re a parent listening to this, don’t be afraid to advocate. The educators want to know. They want to talk with you and they want to understand how best to work with your child.

And if you’re a school leader listening to this or a teacher listening to this, look into the students assigned to your classroom or assigned in your school, particularly if they are younger, coming in or they’re new to your community. Check in with them just to make sure that if they do have a 504 and IEP that it’s addressed right off the bat so you can open the door and have a collaborative conversation right from the get-go.

Can I ask you something in terms of school leadership? Is there anything as a parent that school leaders can do to help you feel more comfortable, more welcome, more included into the school community or the classroom or the IEP process? Now, IEPs generally are the same across the board, but each school has a little bit different procedure for how they go about scheduling them and conducting them. Is there anything that you feel a school leader could benefit from your story that would be helpful for them to know to make things easier for everyone involved?

Youness El Fehdi: Yeah, I think the most important thing to do for neurodiverse community in schools from the educator standpoint is, you know, schools got their own rules and policies, and it’s very good. It’s very important to have policies and rules in school because that’s how it’s going to function. 

But in some cases, in the case of like neurodiverse kids, there’s some rules that not fit for that specific case. It’s like, let’s say you tell a neurodiverse kid to, “Hey, you’re not going to get a break until, you got to finish this assignment. And if you don’t finish it, you’re not going to get a break. You only get a break every 30 minutes, whatever.” But that kid gets a meltdown, gets impatient.

And then let’s say an inexperienced teacher will be like, “Oh, well, this kid is violating the rules. So, we’re going to do a disciplinary write-up and we’re going to call the parents and we’re going to, if it happens again, we’re going to suspend.” The problem with that is like neurodiverse people in general, they play with different sets of rules, different sets of their nature is different than neurotypical people. So, when you apply the rules that govern the neurotypical people on neurodiverse, it don’t work.

So, for the administrator’s standpoint, I would just suggest like to look at the cases that involves neurodiverse kids differently. Like if the school got strict rules, that’s good. That’s very important. It’s good. But when it comes to neurodiverse, we need to look at being flexible with them like tweaking that rule to fit the needs of that specific disabled person. 

Otherwise, we will have issues like we talked about, phone calls every day, suspensions, maybe expulsion, whatever. So, those are the things that we need to distinguish when we’re coming up with rules and applying the rules. We first look at who is that person and what type what type of rules that practical in their case and what type of rules are not that are not practical in their case. And that’s how we separate the neurotypical and the neurodiverse because in reality, we all want inclusion. We want the disabled kids to be with the neurotypical kids together. But the nature of the disability does not support that.

Angela Kelly: And just understanding that and here we’re talking about autism, but there are children with all different kinds of, you know, disabilities or differences in their, you know, neural makeup. And they, rules are meant to keep people safe and to keep some structures in place. I mean, that’s the intention of them. But when we use the rule, when it’s so firm and there’s no flexibility or accommodation considered, then the rule isn’t creating the safety that we want it to create in the end, right? 

If someone’s having a meltdown because they can’t get a physical break because their assignments’ not finished, and then they have a meltdown, that’s not safe for student, for those around them. And so, we want to keep in mind the purpose of rules, why we have them, and then also in working with individuals, what will maintain the purpose of the rule versus black and white, was the rule followed or not.

I really appreciate you sharing that because we can get kind of caught up in this is the rule, they didn’t follow the rule, and now therefore we need to do something about that versus how do we work with the child in order to keep them safe and to get the work done. So, it’s looking at why they may not be following the rule and what their needs are in order to get the work done, but also get the break they need versus this is the one way to do school, the one way to do it.

Youness El Fehdi: And this is coming from a law enforcement officer. So, I’m a law enforcement officer. I’m talking about the rules. Talking about the rules here, but…

Angela Kelly: Yes. 

Youness El Fehdi: In terms of disabled kids, it’s a different story because I believe in the rules because I live and die by the rules. This is what my job is anyway. But sometimes in terms of school and school environments and the disabled kids, we have to be flexible.

Angela Kelly: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So, tell us a little bit more about the book that you wrote around this topic because I know you’ve written several books, and we’re actually planning on having Youness back on the podcast for another topic, but today I was like, I really want to capture this because it’s the beginning of the school year, new families are coming into campus with all the new children, and this is the perfect time to build relationships with our families, to determine if they have specific needs or if they have already a plan in place where we can start implementing that plan and working together. 

So, tell us more about the book. What’s in the book? What are the tips and strategies that you’ve researched and learned and what are some things that we can do as educators to be as supportive as possible?

Youness El Fehdi: The book came out in a period when I was I was just start to get solutions for whatever a new parent, new parents have whenever they have a kid with disability. And the first thing I discussed the social issues like, let’s say you’re at Walmart and your kid has a meltdown. I talk about how people would be staring at you like and judging you as a bad parent because you cannot control your kid, which is not the case.

But my advice to the parents on that case is you just get used to it and don’t care about it because if you take it too hard every time, it’s just going to bring you down and it’s not… So, you just develop that, you know, you just go along with your day and don’t worry about it because, first of all, those bystanders, I don’t blame them because they’re uninformed. They don’t even know what autism is, probably. 

They never heard about it, and they don’t even know if your kid is autistic or not because the thing with autism, you can’t tell if somebody got autism or not. It’s not like let’s say a blind person, you can tell because, you know, they’re having a cane or whatever, it’s physical. But for autism is not physical. If you don’t really deal with that person, you wouldn’t know. So, people always approach is like a normal person.

So, that’s one of the points and the second point that I emphasize in there is the like we just talked about, early intervention is very important for your kid. That saved us a lot of challenges that would be more difficult if we did not put Adam in therapy at an early age. And therapies are so there you got occupational therapy, you got ABA, applied behavior analysis. And for Adam’s case, we tried occupational therapy at first. We didn’t see a lot of development in his behavior, and then we switched to ABA, applied behavior analysis. That’s what I specified in my book, Dominate the Challenges of Autism.

And ABA, that’s how he got the skill of eye contact. And that’s how he start talking a little bit because he’s nonverbal, but he still can before ABA, let’s give you an example. Like if you want to drink water, he couldn’t say that. He just he would just grab you. He would grab you from your hand and just lead you to the fridge or something and then you got to figure out if you want to eat or drink. But after the ABA, he start he say just sentences. He don’t talk, but 

Angela Kelly: He can communicate his needs though. 

Youness El Fehdi: Yeah, his needs, but he can’t like carry a conversation or go back and forth in conversation. But if he memorized a sentence and he know what especially when it’s comes to his needs, like water or watch TV or something, he learned that like, I want this, I want that. But he don’t really, he’s considered nonverbal, but he’s still can 

Angela Kelly: Verbalize. 

Youness El Fehdi: Yeah, can verbalize some sentences to express his needs and wants. So, ABA therapy was really important for Adam. But I read about it, and there’s a lot of pushback from people about ABA. They said, “Oh, ABA is just about repeating stuff, repeating this, repeating that.” And it should not be the standard. 

But everything, every kid with autism is different. They’re on spectrums. For my kid, ABA works best. So, my advice to the parent out there is to try. I’m not saying ABA is the golden rule, but for my son, it was the golden rule. So, for your son, it might be occupational therapy, it might be something else, might be like something about verbal something to train your kid how to talk. It just depends.

So, the spectrum is a multi-dimensional disability. So, what you do just try type of therapy and see what works best for you and then go with it. For our case, we went with the ABA therapy and it’s and it works really well. So, the techniques I put over there, there are plenty of techniques. They’re very specific. But like the case that happened in school, when the teacher was with Adam and he was having a meltdown, and she was just trying to stop, stop screaming. That’s an approach we use with neurotypical kids, not neurodiverse. So, the technique is isolate and just wait it out. Maybe 10, 15 minutes and everything is going to go back to normal. So, that’s one of the things.

And other techniques, they’re like neurodiverse kids, especially my kid but most of them is probably 95% they don’t have the sense of time. They don’t understand what time is like. They don’t distinguish between tomorrow and today. They live in the present. They live in the present because if you tell them if they if you tell them if like they say, “I want to go to the beach,” and you tell them, “Okay, this Saturday we’re going to go to the beach.” He’s then two minutes later, they’re going to come back and say, “I want to go to the beach.” And then they get frustrated. 

Angela Kelly: Right. 

Youness El Fehdi: And they’re having a meltdown because he’s thinking you’re refusing to get him to the beach because he don’t understand what Saturday is. 

Angela Kelly: Right. 

Youness El Fehdi: So, he was funny the other day. He said, “I want to go to the beach.” I said, “We’re going on Saturday.” So, he finally got frustrated. He came to me and he said, “I want Saturday.” 

Angela Kelly: That was very clever. 

Youness El Fehdi: I said, “Okay. I don’t have no control about Saturday, but…” 

Angela Kelly: That’s so cute.

Youness El Fehdi: One of the techniques about that is you bring an actual calendar, then you show him like calendar, and be, I got a calendar. That was him. And he just be like, “Okay, today is Tuesday.” Check. Tomorrow is Wednesday. Show him the calendar, check. And then he will get it. By the time it’s Saturday. 

Angela Kelly: Yes. 

Youness El Fehdi: It’d be a good idea to take him to the beach, alright? 

Angela Kelly: Yes. You do not go back on your word on that one.

Youness El Fehdi: Yeah. And also like neurodiverse kids, they’re very, quote, unquote, how we perceive it’s impatient. So, you tell them to wait. Wait 30 minutes or wait 15 minutes for whatever or five minutes, they don’t wait. So you just like, you say wait five minutes, then 30 seconds later, they’re going to come and ask for the same thing, whatever. 

Angela Kelly: Right.

Youness El Fehdi: So, we look at it as an impatience, but how are you going to define it as patience or impatience if they don’t even understand the concept of time. They don’t know the concept of time. So, that’s why I said they play with different set of rules as neurodiverse humans. So, for us, we take it as impatience, and we get mad. “You need to wait,” and you know, that’s the typical response from a neurotypical person to a neurodiverse that it’s just an impatience and you know, you just get mad. But they don’t understand the concept of time. So, our job is how to help them just understand that concept. It can’t be by just telling them because they don’t know.

So, get a timer. You got a little cell phone, a timer, and I thought, he put it by himself. I said, “Put five minutes over there.” He puts five minutes, and he just sit there and watch the timer for like five minutes, and then when it’s beeps, he showed up. 

Angela Kelly: Yes, then he’s like, “I’m ready.” You said five. 

Youness El Fehdi: So…

Angela Kelly: Yeah. That could be good with any small child actually, like the tangibles. I love what you’re sharing about like they need to maybe visually see what they can’t hold conceptually, right? They need to see visually on the calendar or with a you know, stopwatch or something that has digital, you know, countdown on it. So, those are tools that we can use with probably any kid but particularly important for those who are neurodivergent. So, I love that.

And I also love that you brought up just being aware of how we interpret behavior. You know, when you were saying something like, we interpret it as impatience or as being defiant or disrespectful, and catching ourselves to be aware that, oh, I’m thinking this behavior’s defiant. What else might it mean? Like, what are they trying to communicate? Or what else is going on here? 

And being open, just being aware of our thoughts around it and our interpretations of it, and then expanding that and being a little more open to what else might be going on here and how we can navigate that. And that does require on our part, the adults, the time and the patience which we will say, well, we don’t have the time and we run out of patience, but it’s our job as educators to do that. So, thank you for sharing that with us.

Well, what is the title of the book again? I want to make sure listeners are hearing the title of this book.

Youness El Fehdi: Dominate the Challenges of Autism.

Angela Kelly: Oh. And I find this book so inspiring and informational because it’s such a personal story that you actually took time out of your busy life working, you know, in law management, but also you’re a father, you’re a husband, and you have your child and you’re navigating all these things in life. And you took the time to write this book for informational purposes so that other families can benefit from your story, your experiences. 

And so, school listeners out there, this is, you know, very valuable information. It’s important. And it’s written through the lens of the parent. So, if you have any families out there who might find this book beneficial, I highly invite you to recommend this podcast episode. The book link will be in the show notes and the information that you want to share with us, Youness, will be in the show notes. Are there any final words that you’d like to say to all the educators listening out there?

Youness El Fehdi: The final word to educators is we, parents of disabled kids, we understand the frustrations that come from the constant complaints that come from the part of the parent. But it takes two sides to make it work. So, my main thing is the communication and always asking about what’s going on inside the home with the kids. How do you handle this type of issue and how you handle this from the part of the educators towards the parents. 

And also, it’s the parent responsibility to relay the message to teachers because you do not expect a professional, certified teacher to know everything because it’s your kid, and you have the inside knowledge. You deal with your kids more than them, and you have your kids for a longer period of time than they see him or her. So, it’s very important to relay the message and keep a constant line of communication, let’s say emails, like two, three emails a week would be enough. That’s what we do now.

And that would be more beneficial than just the parents blaming the educators and educators blaming the parents and both side shut down on each other and we end up in gridlock. Like nothing, nothing get done. So, my the main important thing is one word, communication.

Angela Kelly: Yes. Yes. Well, thank you for your time. Thank you for your expertise. It’s been an honor to meet you and know you. You are doing so many wonderful things in the world, and I look forward to having you back on another episode of The Empowered Principal® Podcast. So, thank you, Youness, for your time today. And we will drop the link to his book in the show notes.

And if you would kindly share this with any families or fellow educators that might benefit from this conversation and this insight through the lens of a parent, I would really appreciate that. Have a beautiful week. We’ll talk to you all next week. Take good care.

Youness El Fehdi: Thank you, Angela.

Angela Kelly: Thank you.

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The routines we create shape the way we lead, the way we show up, and the results we create. When we become intentional about our routines, we can move from operating on autopilot to creating habits that support the leader we want to be.

In this episode, I explore how empowered routines can help school leaders create the outcomes and experiences they desire. We discuss why routines are not just about what we do, but about who we become through the actions we take consistently. I share how to identify the routines that support your goals, anchor them in your why, and use self-coaching to work through the thoughts, excuses, and challenges that can keep you from following through.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 451.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Well, hello, my Empowered Principals. Happy New Year. Welcome to August 2026. Here we go. We are ready for a brand new school year. Are you ready? Are you already in session? I’m thinking about all of you. I’m sending out so much love, so much enthusiasm, so much excitement for this new year. I want you to know that this is the perfect time to be thinking about empowered routines for the year.

So, it’s that time of year. We’re starting off fresh, kicking off school. EPC is starting. So for those of you who are interested in EPC, please click the link in the show notes, get registered. We are starting in September. We are so ready for you. We want you to be there. We want your talent, your wisdom, your strengths, your expertise in the room with us at the table sharing, collaborating, connecting, networking, problem-solving, supporting, creating, innovating. This is what we’re doing here in the Empowered Principal Collaborative. It’s the most loving, supportive group that you can find on the planet for school leaders. I really, deeply, truly believe that. So join us in EPC. This is the time because we are starting. We want you there. Okay.

Let’s talk about empowered routines. So, we have routines in our life, whether we recognize them and acknowledge them or not, whether we are aware of them or not, whether we are intentional with our routines or not. So, during the summer, you had a certain routine, and that routine looks very different than the school year for most people. But we can be a little more flexible in maybe our sleep schedule or our travel schedule, even our eating schedule for that matter, right? We have different schedules in the summer, but now we’re back getting into a routine. And this is the time of year to be conscious of the routines that you have, to be intentional about the routines you want to create. And I would like to offer empowered routines for you to consider and contemplate for you personally, what you believe to be empowered routines for you.

So, what’s the beauty of having a routine? We all have them. So why do we have them as humans? The way that I see routines is that they automate our decisions and actions. They’re things that we want to just do on autopilot that help us achieve the lifestyle we want, the goals that we have, the experiences we want, without having to re-decide every single day. So when you wake up in the morning, and morning routines are actually really essential, and they’re important. We’re going to talk about them in this podcast.

Your morning routine is essential because it starts your day. It determines your energy, whether or not you feel momentum, you feel excited. That energy about how you feel about your day, the life that you’re going to live today in this moment, starts with your morning routine. So morning routines, and routines in general, they automate our actions. So we don’t have to re-decide every morning. You don’t wake up and decide every morning, “Am I going to brush my teeth?” “Am I going to get dressed?” “Am I going to do my hair and makeup or take a shower?” We automate those routines in the morning because we want to be clean, we want to be healthy, we want healthy teeth, we want to go to school dressed in our professional clothing, not our jammies. And so, we will automate a routine in the morning.

So, we use routines and we leverage them because they help us create our identity. Routines are just actions that we take on a regular basis. So the things you do on a regular basis, they determine your identity. They determine how you feel, they determine what you accomplish, and how you accomplish them. Because as you know, there’s no one right way to do a morning routine or any routine. There’s just the way that works for you.

So, you do have a routine, and I’m using the morning routine as an example. You have a morning routine whether you are conscious of it or not, whether you think about it or not, and whether you’re intentional about it or not. So, it’s not the “what” in the routine. It’s not so much about what you do in the morning. You know what to do. Most of us have a pretty similar routine.

Now, some of us might wake up and meditate the first thing or journal the first thing or do gratitudes the first thing. Other people might just grab their phone and start scrolling or reading the news or checking the email to see if there’s enough subs for the day. Some people get up out of bed and take a walk or stretch or go to a yoga class. Other people get up and prepare the lunches and get the kids things all ready. There’s a routine in everybody’s home and it looks a little different, but the routines are in place so that what you want to accomplish gets accomplished without having cognitive dissonance and arguments within your brain internally every single day. Should I brush my teeth? Should I not brush my teeth? Should I pack the kids’ lunches? No, I don’t feel like packing the kids’ lunches. Do I need to get dressed today or do I not? We don’t do that. We just do. Okay?

So, this is about what we want to create for our routines. So often times, and I want to use the example of like being healthier, fit because it’s something so relatable. We know what to do. If we want to lose weight, we know eat less, move more. Or eat certain kinds of foods that work for our body that help us to lose the weight. We know that. It’s not the what. How do I do this? How do I start this routine or how do I create a routine? It isn’t the what. We know how to do it. And even for you principals out there who are brand new, you don’t know what you’re doing.

So even if you don’t know the what. And look, do we actually really know the what? When we’re thinking about my goal, I want to build a routine that the outcome of that routine is, you know, increased student success, increased teacher success. My outcome that I desire is a thriving, successful school, academically, professionally, personally, socially. I want a healthy culture. I want these things for my school. What is the routine? We might not know. Oh, do this, do that.

But even when we don’t know exactly how to create a desired outcome and what exact steps we need to do, especially if you’ve never done the job before, none of us really know exactly how to raise test scores or what support a student or a teacher might need to create successful outcomes of their own. But we do know some possibilities. We can guess, we can test our theory, even when we don’t know. So you can test out a routine, see if it empowers you, see if it empowers others, see if it works, try it. If the routine doesn’t feel good or it’s not creating the outcomes, adjust. You don’t have to get exactly know the how.

But a lot of times, we know. We’ll say things like, “I know what to do. I know I should be doing this or that.” So the first step in empowered routines for this school year is to know what you want. What outcomes do you want to create? What experiences do you want to have? How do you want to feel as a principal this year? And why? So what do you want and why? How do you want to create it and why? How do you want to feel and why? Make sure you know the why.

Here’s why. It anchors you. It anchors in the routine. I brush my teeth because I want a clean mouth, fresh breath, and healthy gums. It’s a non-negotiable. I just do it. It’s who I am. It’s my identity. I’m a person who brushes their teeth every single day. I floss, rinse, brush, I do all the things. Water pick, whatever you have. We do that because we desire the outcome. It becomes a non-negotiable and we get results from it. We go to the dentist, we don’t have cavities, or we go to the dentist and they clean and tell us good job. Keep it up. We want that. We don’t want to lose our teeth. We don’t want gum disease. We want a healthy mouth, okay?

Sometimes we know what to do, sometimes we don’t, but we can test the theory. If you want something but you’re not sure what, you can anchor yourself in the why. This is why I want it, so I’m willing to figure out a routine that helps me get what I want. If I want to lose five pounds, I, you know, let myself have fun this summer, I gained five pounds, I want to lose it during the school year. I’m going to meal prep. That’s going to be my theory. I’m going to test my theory. I’m going to meal prep on the weekend, have everything ready, put it in containers, and off I go. I’ll test that theory. If that doesn’t work, maybe I need to walk before or after school, or you test the theory and see what works for your body.

But that is the easy part when it comes to building empowered routines, knowing what you want and why you want it. Most of us know what we want and why we want it. And if you don’t, start there. What makes empowered routines challenging are the very convincing reasons that our mind will provide us as to why we cannot execute that routine, why we can’t put it into play and make it become a habit, make it become an identity. It’s just who we are. It’s non-negotiable. It’s just what we do. We don’t even think about it. We just do it. Okay?

What makes empowered routines difficult to implement and to execute? Our brain has the motivational triad going on that works against us. It wants us to seek out pleasure, avoid pain, make things as easy as possible. When your brain wants those three things and you’re asking it to do something that’s a little bit uncomfortable or a little bit different, or it requires some effort or some thinking power, your brain will be like, “Nah, I don’t feel like that. I’m kind of tired. I don’t have time for that. That’s not going to work for me,” right? It says things like, “Oh, we couldn’t get into classrooms today. I had a discipline issue.” Feels very reasonable, feels very justified, and maybe it was, but it is a reason and it’s an excuse as to why you didn’t get into classrooms. I know that feels harsh. Just stick with me on this.

Or somebody will say to me, they’re trying to get home to their family, but they keep going home late and then their spouse is upset and the kids, you miss this and that, or the kids are upset, and it’s a big mess, but you just can’t seem to get yourself out of the office. They’ll say, “I couldn’t go home on time. There was a meeting last minute. I had to catch up on paperwork. I hadn’t checked emails all day. I had to get this thing turned in.” There’s always a reason as to why they can’t implement the new empowered routine, the routine that says, “I manage my time, I determine when I work, when I go home, and I ensure that I get my priorities taken care of so that I can be home with my family because that is a priority for me.” The brain is very convincing, you guys. “Can’t make it to yoga, too tired after work. I just can’t do it. Or I can’t get up and walk in the morning, it’s too early.”

Most of the time, we know what we need to do. We know the steps if we want a certain goal. Let’s say we want to get into classrooms, and because we believe that being in classrooms, being present, connecting with kids, connecting with teachers, you want to be in there. You want to see what’s going on. You want to be in the learning environment so that you can be the instructional leader that you are passionate about being. We know what we need to do. What we don’t know how to do when it comes to empowered routines and implementing them is how to coach ourselves through all of the reasons and the excuses and the rationales that our brain will offer us in the moment.

And what I have found to be true for myself is that it is much more difficult to honor a routine that you wish to establish when your brain starts telling you, “It’s okay, you don’t need to do it now. Do it tomorrow.” Or, “You know, you have to get it done right now. There’s no time for going home on time.” To either delay work and you’ll do it tomorrow and not do the routine because you’re too tired or there’s not enough time or something came up and there’s all these reasons, or you do all of the work because you’re afraid to not do the work and so you’re constantly overworking, overexerting, and not living a life outside of school leadership.

But it’s very difficult to honor the routine in the moment because you have feelings about it. You’re either going to be too tired, too exhausted, not have the energy, or you’re going to be so afraid if you don’t get it done or you don’t check the email or you go home on time, you’re going to be deemed a terrible principal and you’re going to lose your job. So, my little secret here, my little hack, is to make the decisions about your routine in advance. Decide ahead of time. This is when I’m going into classrooms. Put it on the calendar. Mark it as a sacred hour on your calendar. I’m going into classrooms. Don’t call me unless there’s life and limb happening, right? Like, if there’s a 911 or potential loss of life, then of course, interrupt me. Otherwise, I’m prioritizing this. It’s my new routine. It’s who I am as a principal. We don’t do that.

If you make these decisions in advance, it’s much easier when your brain’s like, “Oh, this thing, I got to check the email.” “Nope, we’re doing this.” The problem is when the excuses come in, because they will, there’s no stopping it. And I don’t care how long you’ve been a principal, our brain continues to offer the excuses and the reasons why we don’t want to honor the empowered routines we have set into place or that we want to set in place. But when you make the decision in advance, your brain does have less chatter. There’s just less conversation around it in your mind. It won’t extinguish the chatter, but it reduces it. It turns the volume down.

Let me provide a concrete example. I used to struggle in the morning. I would wake up really early and I didn’t want to be loud, but I would be tired, of course. And I just couldn’t decide what I wanted to wear. And I would sit and stare at my closet and then I try something on. I don’t feel like this. I don’t feel like that. I just don’t want to do this. I don’t know what to wear. And I would waste time trying to make a decision. I hated that feeling. It didn’t feel good in the morning. I just was always felt like I was running late.

And so what I ended up doing was on Sunday, I would go in to my bedroom and I would get in my closet and I would pick out five outfits. Monday was my school colors day, so I would put out all of my leopard, Monolama leopard sweatshirt, polo, whatever I was wearing for the day. That was Monday. Tuesdays, I knew I had leadership team meeting, so I wore something professional because I had to go to the district office meetings. You know, Wednesday was staff meeting day. Thursdays was minimum day. Fridays was Fridays, right? So a little more casual on Fridays. We had a lot of, you know, usually sneakers and a blazer or something comfortable but casual because I knew I’d be running around, okay?

So, I started just thinking about, I already know what’s coming up for my week. And so I knew the meetings I had, I knew the professionalism, and I did keep a pair of like extra pair of shoes, extra blazer. So if I had to dress up, or I also had a pair of flats if I had to run around and be more comfortable for emergency stuff. But I kind of knew what was coming for the week. And so I made myself decide on Sunday, this is what my outfits are for the week. I hung them in the bathroom for the week. They were just there and I didn’t have to think about it. Monday’s was in front, Friday’s was in back. Just pulled it off and done. I had a like a rack, a hook thing that I put all of my outfits on and it just was there, wasn’t in the way, made it work. You can hang it anywhere. It doesn’t have to be in your bathroom, but that for me, that’s what worked.

But then I just went in and I knew to get ready, that’s what I was wearing for the day. No more chatter, didn’t argue. Now, did my brain be like, “Oh, I don’t feel like that today. I want to wear other things?” Sometimes, yes. But in that moment, what was most important is that I honored the decision I had already made for myself. Just wear this outfit. Unless there was a stain or something was wrong with it, but we want to honor the decisions we make in advance when it comes to empowered routines because that is how we build up our integrity. That’s how we build up trust in ourselves. Choosing in advance helped me not to have to make the decision in the morning when I wasn’t fully awake. And even then, my brain would still be like, “I don’t want to wear that today. I want something cozier, more comfortable, or I don’t feel perky today. I want that color. I want to wear a different color.”

So, I could always allow myself to change if I wanted to. That’s not the point. I could allow that. But when I do that, I erode my trust and faith in myself. I diminish my self-discipline. I dilute the strength of my word to myself, of my own integrity, of honoring what I said I would do, the promise I made to myself. Now, is a different outfit life or death? Absolutely not. But if I can’t do this with small things, small routines, if I can’t honor them and build up my self-discipline and my self-trust and my self-integrity and my faith in myself and honoring my word and sticking to that promise to myself for the little things like an outfit, I’m definitely going to allow my brain to talk me out of the big things, the more uncomfortable things, the things that are challenging and scary and overwhelming. I’m for sure going to avoid those things and keep changing my mind.

So empowered routines are about what you want, why you want them, and the self-coaching that is required to honor them. This is the gift of coaching, learning the skill of self-coaching. You’re not going to have a coach in your pocket. I can’t come with you every second of the day and be like, “Okay, let’s coach on this.” You’ve got to learn to do it yourself. That’s what EPC teaches you. Self-coaching teaches you how to recognize your current routines, your brain’s typical excuses for those routines, and how you react to those excuses so that you can learn how to self-coach and honor. And look, if a routine isn’t working, you of course can renegotiate that routine, but it comes from a place of what you want, why you want it, and what you believe is the best routine to get you there.

So be aware of your routines. Create some awareness. Create consciousness around your current routines. This is the perfect time to do it because it’s the beginning of the year and decide this is what I want. This is why I want it. This is who I need to be to do it. And I want to learn how to self-coach myself, to empower myself, to rely on me, for me, for my best interest, for my empowered routines. You are worthy of this. You deserve this. It is a skill that every human on the planet deserves to learn is the skill of self-coaching.

So, I’m inviting you in before the doors close. We’re starting in September. Join us for the Empowered Principal Collaborative. If you prefer one-on-one coaching, schedule a consult call. There’s an individual consult call link in the notes and we can talk about it and decide if one-on-one’s the best fit or if EPC is the best fit. But we’d love to have you in the Empowered Principal Collaborative. Have a beautiful day, my fellow leaders, and I will talk with you next week. Take care.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Stories You’ll Tell: Creating Your Legacy as a School Leader

The stories we tell about our leadership experiences are shaped by the choices we make every day. As school leaders, we have the opportunity to create meaningful memories, lasting impact, and a legacy that extends far beyond our time in the role.

In this episode, I reflect on the deeper purpose behind school leadership and why the work we do is about more than getting through the daily grind. I share how creating my new Empowered Principal Academy, reflecting on major life changes, and thinking about the future led me to consider the stories we’ll tell about our lives, our leadership, and the impact we have on others. When we lead with intention, awareness, and consciousness, we can create experiences that align with our values and the legacy we want to leave behind.

Discover how to shift from operating on autopilot to leading with purpose and intention. You’ll learn how to reconnect with your why, focus on the impact you’re creating, and begin creating your legacy as a school leader through the stories you choose to live and tell.

The Empowered Principal® Collaborative is for aspiring and current school leaders who want to create exceptional impact and enjoy the school leadership experience. Join us today to become a member of the only certified life and leadership coaching program for school leaders in the country by clicking here.

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  • Why school leadership is about more than managing the daily grind.
  • How the choices you make today shape the stories and memories you create.
  • The importance of reconnecting with your why as a leader.
  • How coaching can change your perspective, decisions, and leadership journey over time.
  • Why leading with intention and awareness creates a greater impact on others.
  • How to focus on possibility instead of simply expecting tomorrow to look like today.
  • Ways to create meaningful experiences for your staff, students, families, and community.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 450. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not-so-typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Well, hello, my empowered principals. Happy New Year. Happy first month of school. It’s official. We’re in August. We are at it. You’re busy. You are spending a lot of energy on setting up school. So when we are fulfilling a huge to-do list and we are on autopilot, our energy, our mind, our feelings go a little subconscious. And I’d like this podcast to be a moment of consciousness, of awareness for you.

So take a deep breath and settle in. And I want to start by grounding you with a story, a true story that recently happened with me. So I’ve created a brand new program called the Empowered Principal Academy. Now, I didn’t heavily market this because I’m testing it for the first time. So I’ve mentioned it on the podcast, I’ve mentioned it a little bit on social media, and my deepest intention was to have a smaller group of school leaders who have coached with me already before. 

And the reason for that is because this program is an academy. It’s instruction, it’s intense on how to coach, how to be a leader who also coaches. Leadership, mentorship, coaching, they are different hats. And we dissect the difference between a leader who directs and leads, a mentor, and a coach, and why all three of those hats are important and necessary for extraordinary leaders.

So we dove deeply into that. We’re actually in the middle of it right now. And in creating this program, along with a conversation I had with my financial planner, those two actions in my life, creating this program and working with my financial planner has created a lot of consciousness in my life, a lot of awareness. 

Because for a period of time, and I’ve been pretty open about my personal experiences, I’ve gone through a lot. You know, I’ve gone through a change in marital status. I lost my father almost a year ago, to date. He passed away August 15th, the day after his 75th birthday. And then eight weeks after my dad passed, my grandmother had a fall and succumbed to her injuries, two weeks shy of her 90th birthday.

So we’ve had some pretty significant losses in our life, pretty significant emotions and grief to process, and also moments of extreme contemplation and awareness. At the same time, that extreme awareness of who am I now without my dad, without my grandmother, without my marital status, without so many aspects of my life that I used to think were permanent, that felt permanent, that felt safe, that felt certain, I was now faced with the humanness of uncertainty. 

And it invited me into very deep reflection on who I am and how I want to live my life, how I want to experience life, how I want to serve in the world, who I want to be as a mother, a daughter, a sister, a friend, a coach, a colleague. I really deeply contemplated that. And I also went on autopilot for many things just to get through a day of grief, just to get through a day of sadness or frustration as I was processing through the human aspect of all of these changes in my life. 

But what it’s done in creating something brand new that is to me my most epic masterpiece to date, and along with sitting down with my financial planner and talking about the future, and who I want to be, and why I want to be that, and where I want to go, and what I want to do, and how I want to contribute to the world, it really deepened my consciousness.

And I recently wrote a post that I shared on Instagram and Facebook, and it was titled, I think I also sent it in an email for those of you who are on my email list, it was called The Stories You’ll Tell. And this post was generated from a deep reflection on why I coach in the first place, who I am as a coach, why I coach, but more importantly, how coaching impacts lives, my life, your life, students’ life, teachers’ life. 

Every person in our sphere who’s anywhere near our existence, our energy, is impacted by the coaching that we do. You listening to this podcast impacts you, which then in turn impacts those around you because you think differently, or you have new contemplations, or you consider a new perspective, or you have an aha. And because of that, your energy shifts, your mindset shifts, your emotions shift, your actions shift, your decisions shift, everything about you can shift in a moment.

And so when I do this work, and this is a great time to contemplate that because we’re right here at the beginning of the school year. When I do this work, when I work with school leaders, whether you’re an assistant principal, an aspiring leader, a building principal, a district leader, I work with people at the county level, at the state level, at the federal level. I work with leaders throughout education all the way up to the Department of Education. 

And when I think about why we all do what we do, it’s because of the stories that we get to tell, of the memories that we get to create, of the impact we generate. It’s a conscious decision to put our energy into the empowerment of our staff, our students, our families, our communities, our colleagues, our industry as educators.

We aren’t just here to get through the grind of the kickoff of school, which is coming up. You’re in it right now. You’re in the energy of a new school year. You’re kicking off a new year. There’s a lot of energy involved in that, and it can feel like a grind, and it can feel exhausting. But there’s something beyond that surface. 

There’s a reason we care about school being ready for kids. There’s a reason we care about our staff members being on the right seat on the bus to start the year. There’s a reason that we care that the campus looks welcoming and tidy and clean, and it’s safe. There’s a reason we will overwork and over-prepare so that families feel welcome, teachers feel comfortable in their spaces, they have what they need, students know where to go, what to do. There’s a reason we overthink processes, dismissal, drop-off, the cafeteria, master schedules. There’s a reason.

So I like to think about each and every one of you and the stories that you will tell about your school leadership experience. I already have my stories as memories because I no longer actively lead a school building or I’m not in a district office at this time. In this moment, those are memories. I have stories I created about my school leadership experience. And you are creating stories about your school leadership experience.

So yes, coaching in real time, it’s the best thing that ever happened because you do get to tackle problems and solution, create solutions in real time. I’m dealing with this scenario. We discuss it, your thoughts and feelings about it, your considerations about other people’s thoughts and feelings about it, we make empowered decisions, we plan an approach, and we move forward. That is the activeness of coaching. 

But the outcomes of coaching, the stories that you tell, the good, bad, and the ugly, the funny stories, the horrible stories, the enlightening stories, the inspiring stories, the contribution stories, the failure stories, the experience of school leadership is in the stories you’re creating, the stories you’re telling, the memories, the stories you’re going to tell at your retirement party, or when you resign from this position because you got promoted or you got another job or you were offered something bigger for your next chapter, and you’re going to have a party and you’re going to have memories and stories, and it will feel so sad to say goodbye. 

Even though there were moments you’re like, I don’t think I can handle this job. The stories that you’re going to tell your grandchildren one day when they’re like, “Wow, granny, grandma, Nana, Nona, what was it like to be a school principal when you were back then in the day? What was it like? Did you have chalk?” Right? They’re stories. What were the kids like? What were the classrooms like? Even though it’s maybe only 10 years or 20 years from now, they’ll think it was, you know, you were writing on stone tablets. 

Great stories will emerge from students and families and memories and meetings that went great, meetings that went horrible, events that you held. Think about the things you remember already. Are you remembering the joy, the fun, the reason that you’re here? All of the moments of empowerment, of educating, of teaching and learning and inspiration and breakthroughs and transformations in students or staff members? Think of the stories that you sit around and tell with your colleagues, friends. I have a girls’ weekend, they’re all teachers. We tell the stories over and over. We laugh at them every time. The kids are hilarious.

What matters most to me as your coach, whether I’m your coach through this podcast or whether you have worked with me in the past or you work with me right now or you desire to work with me in the future, what matters most to me is not that I just simply support you through the grind, which is what I do on the surface. What matters most to me is why you do what you do. That you’re connected to your why. That you’re connected to the story you’re creating. This is not permanent. 

You as the school leader of this school, in this district, in this community, is not permanent. What matters most to me, my why is your why. I want you to create consciousness around your why. To remember why you’re setting up school, why you’re running your, you know, around crazy on your campus, why you’re connecting, why you’re developing relationships, why you’re putting out the class lists the way that you do. There’s a why behind everything. And we go on subconscious, we go on autopilot.

I want your stories to have deep meaning. I want them to matter to you. Not matter to the people you’re telling. When you tell your grandkids the stories, they will be enamored with the stories at their developmental level, but they’re not their stories. They’re just entertainment for them. They’re like, “Wow, it’s one way to feel connected to grandpa or grandma.” 

But to you, it was your life. This job is your life. And are we spending our life focusing on how awful it is, how hard it is, what we can’t get done, what’s in our way, the obstacles, the people, the negative energy, the subconscious tapes running in the back of our mind that are just driving us? Do we actually believe there’s a different outcome for tomorrow for this school year? Or do we just expect the kids to act the same, the teachers to be the same, the test scores to be similar? Where are we in our story?

I believe that for us to have deeper meaning, to create influence that has further impact and to create experiences with the best memories possible is through coaching. Coaching changes the storyline, and not just this day’s storyline. You’re listening to this now. You’re consciously aware of the words that I’m saying and you’re contemplating how these words impact you personally or your experience personally. 

But coaching week after week, over time, changes the storyline. It changes the entire manuscript of your life. It changes the lens through which you look, the perspective through which you consider, the narrative in which you write, the direction that you take yourself and your school and your career. The experiences that you file in your mind, the ongoing legacy of your work that goes far beyond your human existence. The people that I’ve impacted in my life will live longer than me. The students that you’re serving are going to live, maybe, longer than you. That’s the plan. 

Our impact goes so much further than the traffic you’re in right now listening to this podcast, or the conversation that didn’t go well, or the conversation you’re anticipating is not going to go well. We create our tomorrow in our mind. Tomorrow hasn’t happened yet. We have no idea what’s going to happen. But our brain wants predictability because it feels safe, it feels certain, and we just expect tomorrow to look like today, when in reality we have no idea.

And the only reason we ever think like, well, I guess it’s possible for things to be better next year is because something unexpected would have to come up. Something out of this world that we would never see coming would have to come in and save the day or change the trajectory of our experience, of our story. So contemplate this. Your story is why I coach. It’s why I created the Empowered Principal. I don’t want to be just another educational consultant who offers professional development and helps you, I don’t know, what everyone’s out there doing. 

But what I’m here to do is to help you create a story. Knowing that you’re not permanent, that your impact isn’t permanent. None of this is permanent. So why not make the best of it? Why not focus on what’s working? Why not focus on feel-good goals? Why not focus on what we want to be, what we’re striving to be? Why not create more awareness, more stories? Why not create stories that we love versus stories of all the hard, all the grief, all the pain? Because it’s both. We’re going to have moments of grief, moments of pain, moments of sadness. That is the full package of this experience, no matter what. But we can create our stories with intention and with consciousness.

My desire for you is to have the most satisfying and rewarding story. That’s yours to own. The one that you love to share, that you would laugh with your friends year after year after year. The same stories, doesn’t matter. They’re great stories because you love them. You love to share them. You love to relive them. You cherish them. And some of the hardest stories become our most cherished stories. The stories of triumph and overcoming, or the stories of failure and how we learned from that. 

And what can feel so bad in a moment last year, we don’t have to pack that up in a suitcase and bring it to this year. Only pack up the wisdom, leave the rest, leave the trauma, and anticipate possibility versus predictability. Because here’s the best part about you having a great story to tell. The stories that others can tell because of your commitment to having a great story becomes an outcome beyond measure.

When you show up and you identify as an empowered principal and you’re committed to having a great story this year, full of possibility, full of potential, anything’s possible. We have no idea what tomorrow brings or what this school year will bring. And we’re here for it. We’re anticipating the best. We’re showing up as the best version of ourselves today. When we do that, that energy is contagious.

People want a piece of that. They want a leader who inspires them just energetically through their energy, their words, their motion, their positivity, their willingness to believe in possibility, in our potential, in new things. That tomorrow’s a brand new day, anything could happen. You know, we find it really easy to be like, “Yeah, the bad things could happen.” And we believe that that’s possible. But when it comes to the good stuff, we don’t believe that’s possible. We’re like, “Well, that probably won’t happen, but this could happen.”

So decide to live a great story, to create a great story, one that you can tell now and in the future so that other people, your staff, your students, your community, your families will look back and say, “Wow, what a great school leader we had. My kids’ school was the best. What a great experience we had as a family attending that school. What a great experience teachers had teaching at that school because of her, because of him, because of them.” 

Teachers whose careers thrived because of you. Support staff who served the school community with joy and care and a love of being at your school because of you. Parents and families who felt heard, seen, appreciated, all because of you. Students who kept trying and failing and trying again until they got it, until they succeeded. Why? Because of you.

Your story includes them and their story includes you. Have a beautiful school year. Create the story you want to live. And if you’re so inclined, we would love to have you in EPC. The Empowered Principal Collaborative, this is what we talk about. This is the energy. We look at possibility, not predictability. We create stories on purpose. We create experiences on purpose. Consciousness, alignment, awareness, intention, that’s where it’s at. 

So you can choose to lead your school on autopilot, or you can choose to lead with intention, awareness, and consciousness. That is what creates a beautiful experience. Because you decide in every moment and every day, “This is who I am. This is how I lead. This is the experience I’m creating. This is the story I’m living to tell.”

Have the most beautiful year. I love you all. I look forward to meeting you in EPC. Take good care. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Dysregulated Kid: Creating More Regulated Schools with Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge

Understanding student behavior through the lens of nervous system regulation can transform the way schools support students, teachers, and families. When we move beyond labels and look at what a child’s behavior may be communicating, we create opportunities for connection, learning, and growth.

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge, a leading expert in nervous system regulation and author of The Dysregulated Kid®, about how regulation impacts learning, behavior, and mental health. We discuss why creating more regulated schools starts with helping adults regulate themselves, how shared language and simple strategies can support entire classrooms, and why students don’t need to wait for a diagnosis before receiving tools that help them thrive.

Tune in this week to discover how regulation can become a foundation for stronger relationships, more supportive classrooms, and healthier school communities. You’ll learn how to recognize signs of dysregulation, support students and staff through simple regulation practices, and create environments where everyone has greater capacity to learn, connect, and grow.

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why understanding dysregulation can change the way we approach student behavior and support needs.
  • How nervous system regulation impacts learning, attention, behavior, and emotional well-being.
  • Why adult regulation is an essential part of creating supportive classrooms and school environments.
  • How simple practices like breath work and shared language can support students and educators.
  • The importance of looking for root causes instead of only responding to behaviors.
  • How regulation strategies can benefit all students, not just those with a diagnosis or identified need.
  • Why building regulation into daily school routines can increase capacity for learning and connection.

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Angela Kelly: Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 449. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not-so-typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Hello empowered principals. Welcome to today’s episode. I have a very good friend and colleague of mine here on the podcast. Her name is, I call her Dr. Roseann, Roseann Capanna-Hodge. She is an expert in regulation, nervous regulation. We’re going to talk about it. She has just dropped a new book called The Dysregulated Kid, which I know all of you are interested in hearing about.

We’re here as leaders. We’re here as teachers, we’re here as students, and so I’m going to let Roseann tell you a little bit about herself, her background, and her new book because it is fantastic. It’s something we need to be talking about on the regular here in education for ourselves and for our students. So Roseann, welcome to the podcast.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Well, thank you for that beautiful introduction. I’m grateful to have the privilege of knowing you, and this is my second time on. So…

Angela Kelly: It is. That’s right. 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: I’m glad. And as a certified school psychologist, I know what it’s like to be boots on the ground in a school, and it is a different time, and we are constantly evolving, and people at every level in a school, right from the custodian to the superintendent have a lot on their shoulders, you know? And my book is called The Dysregulated Kid because for 30 years, I’ve been watching this dysregulation crisis happen. 

But for 30 years, I have been helping the most dysregulated kids and families regulate their nervous systems, which means they can pay attention better, they can process better, they’re happier, they have less mental health issues and symptoms. So I really wanted to take the science, as I always do, and make it so ridiculously easy that anybody could regulate themselves, from the teacher who’s got a classroom full of kids that are struggling to the mom and dad, to the grandma, to anybody. 

This is really a book about what are simple ways that every day I can do little things to bring my nervous system back into balance and really, why is it so important? You know, because we are moving to this place of constant clinical diagnosis and people having strife and being unhappy and struggling with focus and all these things that happen when the nervous system dysregulates. And yet we’re making regulation feel like it’s unattainable and so hard. And I’m here to tell you, absolutely not, that if the things that I did with the most dysregulated kids with serious clinical issues, if they worked when people did it, it can work for anybody.

Angela Kelly: Yes. I love this approach because I know that for the last 30 years you have been working in a clinical setting with students get referred for behavioral or academic concerns. They go through 504 and people are looking for them to get diagnosed for an IEP to qualify for an individualized education plan. 

And one of my philosophies in these meetings was, can we not just do the strategies that we’re waiting for the strategy until they get the diagnosis versus just like, let’s try the strategy first and see if we can just circumvent this whole process of getting them labeled. Let’s just do it now in the classrooms and see what happens versus having them go through this process of getting labeled and getting qualified and then giving them these strategies. It sounds like that’s what I hear you saying as well.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Well, that’s amazing. And where were you in all my school meetings? Actually, I did have some amazing school meetings. It’s just sometimes when you’re in these rooms and you’re in hearings and things like that, it didn’t always go well. But why wouldn’t we want to do more for everybody? 

You know, when I used to go into a school, whether it was a private school or a public school, I would be going in for one kid, and I would go to the teacher and say, let’s do this for the whole classroom. Like everybody will benefit and you will feel the benefit. And so then I would have teachers who would get so excited, administrators like, of course. And every time it made things better. And we shouldn’t wait. And guess what? We now, right, what is it? By 2031, one in 27 births of male and female will be an autistic child.

And it is, I believe it’s one in 27 males already. So we now have just about in every classroom in America, we’re moving to having an autistic student. That’s just one form of neurodivergence, right? That’s a nervous system that’s more sensitive to their environment, going to require these things. Why wouldn’t we do this for everybody? Because we often think nervous system dysregulation, which is really difficulty shifting your nervous system between stress and calm. We’re supposed to be able to moderate stress. Every day we have stressors. You and I were talking about some of the personal stressors we were catching up.

And even talking about it gets you a little, gets your nervous system a little activated. But that’s normal. In a healthy nervous system, it goes from calm, parasympathetic, then a stressor happens and it moves into a sympathetic dominant. But a normal system will say, perceive threat, danger is over, come back down. What’s happening is I talk about the nervous system as a stress cup, Angela, and what happens when a cup is, you put too much in a cup. 

So the nervous system is the same thing. It does not have unlimited capacity, and in our modern life, we just keep adding stressors, right? I’m going to short change sleep. I’m going to stretch myself and take two AP classes and the rest all honors classes. I’m going to, I don’t know, I had a fight with my boyfriend, my mom and I yelled, whatever. All these things sort of happen. And then we have all these people walking around going, you know, I can’t pay attention. I have anxious thoughts. I’m so snappy at everybody. 

And we then think, well, is it anxiety? Is it this? Maybe it is. I don’t know that. But our go-to should be like, we’ve got to regulate. And these are all strategies that are accessible regardless if you have a trauma background or a clinical diagnosis or your age. These are all free, accessible things because what was important to me having done clinic work, not everybody could get to me. Not everybody could afford me. And hello, I’m one person. I was one person. And you know, I no longer do clinical work. I’m just on this mission to really provide the antidote to this crisis. And hello, it’s really simple. It’s not so hard. We got to stop overthinking and start doing.

Angela Kelly: Mhm. Mhm. Say more about that because I think the listeners out here, they’re really curious. They probably heard about nervous system regulation, dysregulation. That language is becoming more mainstream as well as like vagus nerve. Like I’ve heard a lot of conversation in social media presence with the vagus nerve. So tell us a little bit more about that.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Sure. I mean, I mentioned our stress response system, which is our ANS, which is our autonomic nervous system, and its job is to mitigate and handle stress as you do things. So my son called me earlier and I don’t like to talk to him when he’s in the car, but all of a sudden I hear him go, holy cow. And I’m like, is everything all right? And he said somebody came into his lane. So he got, he got himself excited, and then I was like, okay, take a, I could hear him breathing. I was like, oh, I’m so glad you breathed through that.

And then I just said, that happened to me twice yesterday, Max. That’s why we can’t be on the phone. He’s like, I know. I said, I love you, goodbye, you know, and he brought himself down because he works, he has to work real hard, my Max. My Max is the dysregulated kid. He’s my opening story. There’s lots of other kids in there and success stories of people who did these things. 

But when we talk about that autonomic response, we talk and the vagus nerve. So our vagus nerve is what connects our gut to our brain. And so we have to start thinking about our body as a whole body system. And when we think about mental health, we really only think about the brain. We only think about neurotransmitters. And that’s because our diagnostic and statistical manual, what we use to diagnose people, unfortunately very much aligns with a pharmacological intervention. It doesn’t align with, let’s back it up. Let’s start looking at behavior as signs of the nervous system being under or overstimulated. That’s a huge reframe. 

So instead of saying, why is this kid doing this, you say, what is the nervous system showing that this kid needs, right? Or even this classroom. When I think about, I have this great story in my book, and I have a whole bonus chapter just for schools in this book because again, I’ve been there. But I remember going to this class, and it was the first time I had been in a school where there was a kindergarten. So I was there on the first day, Ang.

Angela Kelly: It’s the best. And you know I taught kindergarten for 15 years.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: You know exactly. So it was an inner-city school, so there were kids that had never set foot in a school. And there was, the school district had at the time 47 languages. So there was all kinds of things going on. And there was a teacher who was like grounding mother earth. And I walk in the classroom, there was like an aide guarding the door. There’s a kid that’s like trying to get out, you know, it was like full-on chaos, but not really because the teacher was like, I’m going to be the calm. And she just became the calm. 

And I remember being like, this is a masterclass in how much your regulation impacts everybody else. So when we’re talking about the nervous system and all of these things, vagus nerve, vagus stimulator, gut brain connection, these are all really important things. And our brain does connect to our gut, and stress impacts every single system in the body, your immune system, your hormone system, your gut, your neurotransmitters. 

So we’re often trying to go to these other things to do an intervention. And I’m not saying they’re not important. What I’m saying is if we don’t regulate first, nothing sticks. And so it’s part of this crisis that we’re seeing in that interventions are not working. How many times is a school psychologist that I say, you know, hey, listen, I really think you should go to therapy. Here’s why. And the parent would be like, we already did that. It didn’t work.

To finish that idea, right, we have these different systems and nothing is going to stick treatment wise. Like I said, somebody says, you know, I want to do therapy and they say it doesn’t work or I try this. It’s because the nervous system is too activated to accept that treatment. And the way biology works is your frontal lobes go offline as soon as you activate in a sympathetic dominant state. So what does that look like in a class? A bunch of ADD kids. 

And if you’ve ever watched a kid who experienced trauma or a kid who’s anxious or somebody who’s got OCD, they don’t look so different from kids with biological ADHD behaviorally. Their brains look very different because I did, you know, over 10,000 QEEG brain maps, which are basically brain scans. So we have to move beyond what we thought, and we have to start bringing these very practical things into the classroom, into homes because we think about these big interventions and parents are choking. They can’t do these things. So we need to make things much more simple. And that is what I did, not just in this book, but in all of my work.

Angela Kelly: That’s incredible. It’s interesting because in school, like I work with the school leadership side and they’re noticing the same thing in the adults in the room. Like, so the adults on campus, working with families, community members, in addition to children, and people feel like they are at a loss. They’re not sure what to do because you can only get so many kids through the IEP system, right? Where you’re qualifying them for special education. 

Only so many kids, one will qualify. Two, you can only pump through so many administrations and so many administering of these exams and these tests to determine qualification, which is why I said like, why, why not just start what we think is best practice for these students and go there and see if we can help from the onset. And then the kids who aren’t regulating at that point, we can, we can provide additional supports. 

So in the work that you’re doing now, and you’re seeing this, you know, you actually mentioned it as a crisis, which I believe educators would agree that this, we’re at a crisis level and teachers are feeling ill-equipped, school leaders are feeling ill-equipped. What are some, you said making it easy. They’re probably clapping right now as they’re listening to this. What are some things that you can recommend that they start doing that is very tangible, very hands-on, and something that’s very simple to start incorporating into the campus, the classroom, students and staff?

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Well, I think when it comes to schools, being that I definitely have worked in multiple schools, I feel that what happens is we have trends in school system, right? Whether it’s reading or math or social emotional learning, but what does really help and makes things a lot easier because schools, right, have a lot of pressure on them. They’re asked to do everything that isn’t being done at home. And let’s be honest, again, parents are struggling. We know this, right? And so educators are in a unique position because they have a lot more training around how kids, how they can shape kids’ behavior by what they do and say. 

And so we’re trying to transfer that knowledge to parents who, who may or may not be receptive to it. I feel like a lot of parents really are receptive to it. But one of the things that really works is shared language, right? So when schools start using things, the best way to amplify this is sharing the language. What systems could come into place? So I created shared language. So one of the things that I talk about is something called CALMS, C-A-L-M-S. It’s just a simple acronym. There’s nothing in there that costs any money. And the C is about co-regulating. 

So the first step in everything is to get the adult to regulate, as we talked about. So that’s the teacher, that’s the principal, that’s the parent. So the question becomes, how do we do that? You know, the other, the other parts, A is avoiding personalizing, L is looking for root causes, M is modeling the skills you want, and S is to support and reinforce because we as educators know, kids need a lot of reinforcement. I don’t think any parents do that, right? They don’t understand that. Who knew? You had to reinforce so much. You think you just say it one time. And we remember our own things, we think we only were told one time. It’s not true.

Angela Kelly: Right. Because our parents were like, don’t make me have to tell you twice.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yeah, I know. How about, don’t make me tell you it again. So when we back up, the most important part is getting everybody to regulate. And so how can we do that? How can we have conversations? Like I try to think of every single thing, Angela, in this book, like there’s a book club guide here. There’s all kinds of ways for people to bring this in. I mean, certainly they can bring me in. But like we’re talking about global impact here. Like where can we get things going? 

But the language and demonstrating how to regulate within a classroom, just like when we have a kid with sensory issues, we start bringing sensory techniques in the classroom. Guess what? Everybody benefits. What can we do in the classroom? Can it be breath? Can it just be breath work that becomes part of the curriculum? We know breath work, hello, it’s free, and it’s the quickest way to pull your body into an autonomic nervous system. 

And I know some of the adults who are here listening might say, oh, I hate breath work or it doesn’t work. Well, I’m going to tell you that if you hate breath work, pretty much guarantee that you are somebody who’s dysregulated and your stress cup is full. And I want people to reframe dysregulation because we often think that what stresses our nervous system always has to be something bad. Your nervous system knows no difference between good and bad stress.

Angela Kelly: That’s interesting.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yep. So we always are coming through our thinking brain. That’s not what happens in the autonomic nervous system. It decides what is perceived as stress, right? So certainly if something bad happens like, you know, you did get hit by a car or God forbid…

Angela Kelly: Like a trauma. Yeah.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Trauma, you know, then yes, it’s going to feel awful. But when it comes to filling up your stress cup, those things just fill up. So I got to the bus, but I had to run there. Okay, that’s a stressor. I had to study for a test. I got an A, that’s a stressor. I studied for a test and I got a D, that’s a stressor. It just keeps going, going. What I think we’re doing in our modern society, we are not doing the things to regulate ourselves. We certainly don’t have downtime, and I don’t want to blame technology, but technology is part of this problem. There’s no powering down, and the nervous system needs you to power down in order to regulate. There has to be moments of calm. 

And yes, would be great to take breaks from technology, but there also are other ways, right, including breath work and somatic and different exercises and all these different things. We need to pull the hum of this crisis down. And you know, what every school can do to bring parents in as part of this conversation through the PTA, through partnering with religious institutions, all the ways that they get out information. Schools are the hub of a community. They are the lifeblood, and I know there’s a lot on their plate, but if we keep putting interventions that don’t start with the nervous system, it’s like mopping the floor with a wet mop that we haven’t rung.

Like, it’s moving things around, but. And so when I would do this work, every year, Angela, in the summertime, I would get a lot of extra kids, you know, kids that were really struggling. And so every September, I would get the calls, and the parents would go, the school called and wanted to know what medication my kid. And I was like, did you tell them what we did? Did you tell them we regulated the nervous system? And they were like, yes. And, you know, I would have all these regulated kids, like bees, you know, going out. And then there would be teachers that would just call me and bring their own kids in, you know, and stuff because they just couldn’t believe what they were seeing. 

And so that’s the power of regulation, but it doesn’t happen in isolation. We can’t just regulate a child and expect a child to go back home. However, we can make their brain more available for learning and processing at the school day. I’m not a Pollyanna here. You have educators leading schools in every facet of America, inner city components, you know, places where there’s food deserts, you know, places where there has been trauma at the schools. 

And I’ve worked, you know, as a former provider, I was one of nine approved providers for Sandy Hook. I worked with 9/11 survivors. I understand trauma. What did I do every single time when I had a trauma victim, regardless of what the trauma was, regardless of the age, is I regulated their nervous system. I didn’t do anything else until they were regulated enough to do some kind of therapy because we know, again, the brain isn’t going to process that.

So that’s part of why we’re in such a stuck place because this is that missing ingredient in the sauce that makes the beautiful sauce. Like, you go to somebody’s house and you’re like, where did, what’s that sauce? What’s that? And you try to give somebody the recipe and they’re just not doing it right. This is the part that makes everything else work better.

Angela Kelly: That’s beautiful. And I want to reiterate what Rosanne just said, which was kids are not available for therapy, aka, they’re also not available for learning if they’re dysregulated. That’s true with adults, it’s true with students. So bringing in regulation techniques, one, it’s a win-win, win for teacher, win for students, and that helps learning. So that’s one thing I think we want to really drive home here. Children don’t have to be labeled or they don’t have to be even medically labeled or labeled academically as having some kind of a learning disability or a behavior disability, some kind of a disability in order to then provide these techniques. They are free and available to everyone. 

And when you learn them, all students can access them to the level at which they need them. You mentioned something about medication. Now, many, many IEPs have I sat in, and many times teachers would come in and say, we’ve tried everything, we need to bring up the topic of medication. These kids need to be medicated, right? Not every teacher, but some teachers. What would your response be to somebody who wants to push the medication before they’ve tried the regulation techniques that you’re suggesting in your book?

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yeah, well, first of all, under federal law, we’re not allowed to suggest medication. We can only suggest, yes, so we can only suggest that they visit their physician or go to a psychiatrist. And even that is controversial because then a parent can come back to you and ask for the district to pay for that. FYI, that’s the law.

Angela Kelly: Yes. 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Right? 

Angela Kelly: Definitely, as a school leader, I know this. Many teachers don’t know this, and maybe new school leaders, if you’re listening, make sure you’re seeking legal counsel before recommending any kind of outside services for a student.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yeah. And from what I understand, it’s okay to say, you know, do you have a pediatrician and say, you know, here are the concerns or give them this rating scale, you can and go and talk to them about it. But pediatricians, oh my God, their plate is full. I mean, they’re dealing with everything and they don’t even have a basic course in nutrition, pediatricians. Like, I think that’s shocking to most people. They’re just starting to teach what food does to the body to doctors in modern training.

So what will a pediatrician do is their training is medication. They don’t necessarily know. What I found about physicians, and I my some of my best friends are physicians. I mean, I hang out with a lot of physicians. What I found in my personal experience, and I could say this for a lot of things, right? Teachers are seeing everything. So their knowledge is incredible, right? School leaders, they’re so incredible. But pediatricians, they want to please the parent. They’re not learning about all of these things unless they’re seeing a patient come back and getting better or they have their own personal experience. 

At any given time, about one third of all my patients were medical people from pharmacists, a lot of pharmacists, different medical doctors. I have a pediatrician right now. As I’m ending my clinical care, just ending out my last few clients. That always spoke to me, and they would always come to me and be like, why do I not know this stuff? And I’m like, you know it now. And, you know, here’s training. So your training and experience determine what you’re going to recommend. 

And so when I started, I right out of the gate had complex cases. I never saw anybody who had just simple issues and whatnot, occasionally here and there. So I realized real quick that psychiatric medication and talk therapy was not working for my clients. You know, everything from a very heavy neurodivergent population, but pretty layered mental health issues in there on top of that as well. And so I went to the microfiche in the 90s, right.

Angela Kelly: Yes.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Just in case you’re too young, my leaders, it means I went to the belly of the basement and looked on film to find research. And in the first hour, I found, I learned about like vitamin D and food and the impact of these things on your brain. And I was like, holy cow. The great part is I was still in graduate school and I went to my professors and they were like, oh yeah, this stuff’s valid. And I was like, why are we not teaching a whole class on this? 

Anyway, but I always believed that every child could get better. If I had a family that was willing to do the work, right, not perfectly, but to do enough of the work, I saw that people got better. I saw that we actually created generational change. I mean, it’s pretty incredible. But we have to, when a teacher is recommending things, why can’t we give knowledge to parents and say, because the great part about nervous system information is there’s nothing judgmental. It doesn’t factor in your color. It doesn’t factor in what your life experiences are. It just says, wait, here are some behaviors that reflect under stimulation. Here are behaviors that reflect over stimulation. 

And guess what? Here are three or four or five really simple ways to regulate. And what I do in all of my work is I’m really trying to get people to commit to it. So I made it like truly stupid simple, Angela, to do this. Like, it does not matter what you’re bringing to the table. If you’re willing to take micro moments, a few minutes, multiple times throughout the day, you will experience regulation. And then to keep it going, right, I have an action plan, all these other things because what I saw is that I always quote my dad, Tony. My dad, Tony always says, it’s easy with the mouth.

Angela Kelly: Right.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: So it means we can say things, but do we actually do things? And so in this world of information overload, I mean, just absolute information overload. I love me AI, but AI is not going to cut it. You got to do. So I wanted to make it where there was no excuse. And the way I look at nervous system regulation is we need to treat this now as just like brushing our teeth. We brush our teeth to prevent cavities, abscesses, serious infections. We have to do the same thing about nervous system regulation. And, you know, the great part about nervous system regulation, again, easy, free things that you could be doing multiple times a day. 

But the more you do it, the more your nervous system will just start doing it on its own. So the more you regulate, the more your nervous system will want to regulate and do it automatically. And the reverse is, the more you dysregulate, the more your nervous system will automatically go to a dysregulated state. Now, it doesn’t matter how dysregulated you are. You can pull that back. You just have to actually believe it and you have to do some work around it. You can’t just, you know, as I always say, magic wand it.

Angela Kelly: Yes. In the classroom, there are systems we put into place. We teach kids where to put their backpacks when they come in. For the littles, it was like we teach them their name so they know which cubby is theirs, and we teach them how to get a pencil and what to do if they break a pencil and how to get a new pencil and we have all these little systems in place that make the day flow, the operation flow. We have those kinds of systems. 

And when we are doing that, it is to make the day easier for you, for me, for us, right? And this regulation can also be done as like just daily operations in your classroom. This is how it should look and feel on a regular basis. Here’s what to do when you’re dysregulated. Here’s what to do if you’re, you know, you and your friend have a conflict. You’re teaching the regulation skills just like you would teach any other system in your classroom.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Absolutely. And when you’re doing it, right, so there’s two parts to, you know, regulation and coping and managing, you know, things. When you’re regulating in moments of calm, it deepens the calm. It’s easier. It takes that stress out, and you’re creating capacity. And you need capacity for the second part of this when bad things happen, when you have a conflict with a friend, when you’re being excluded. You need to have capacity to think through, problem solve, pull out skills. 

A lot of times, you know, you’ll hear, you know, the kids that get identified, kids that get a 504, kids that get pulled for intervention. You’ll always hear the school social worker, teacher, the person doing the intervention say, well, they know it in the room, right? And they don’t know it out there. And it’s because we’re teaching skills, but we’re not teaching anybody how to regulate. So they go back into the classroom, they dysregulate, the frontal lobes go offline, and they lose the skill. You have to have that ability. 

And I think all of us could think about a time where you’re maxed out and then you’re like, oh, I just can’t do one more thing. But we are adults. Most of us say, hey, like, can we table this till tomorrow? When somebody says that, it’s because they’re done. But kids are learning and they need us to be the leaders in regulation. So if that teacher is leading the classroom, that administrator coming in and is saying, you know, like, hey, who did a love pause today? 

That’s my way of, I have this thing called the three-second love pause. And all it is give yourself three seconds. You pause, you breathe, or you do some type of regulation activity and three, then you respond. If we all took three seconds before we responded, when we’re irritated or a cup is full, we would have a lot less conflict in the world. 

Angela Kelly: Yeah. I agree.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: You know, right? But if we create this environment where this is put in, we all get a reciprocal benefit. The loudest nervous system, right, the nervous system that’s the most regulated, the most nervous system that’s the actually the one that’s the most dysregulated, they start pulling the room. But when you become that calm, this calm starts regulating the dysregulated kid without saying a word. 

And that’s where I think we need this. I really praise the boots on the ground in the classroom because they have a tremendous amount on their plate. And I don’t want to ever hear that we’re getting better at diagnosing. That is bologna and cheese. We have a lot more kids with a lot more issues, end of story. And it has nothing to do with diagnostics.

Angela Kelly: Mhm, that’s so fascinating. 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yeah, and I can tell you that. I mean, I’ve been there for 30 years. And you’re also seeing a lot more complexity in the issues. Since the pandemic, you know, yes, I always had complex issues, but now, since the pandemic, it’s just layer upon layer. And people really, I don’t know if some kids and some families never fully recovered from that pandemic time. And we’ve certainly gone further into device usage, which again is not the devil, but it needs moderation, it needs boundaries in advance, and nobody’s talking, I mean, I have a whole chapter on that. 

But we need to be better at helping us all manage it, including myself. I mean, I’m do things all the time to keep my device away from me because it just is too convenient. It fits in your hand and it’s just too accessible. So we have to start from within. We have to implement things that anybody can do. And that’s what things like breath work and somatics, they’re simple, small things that are absolutely part of the daily schedule. And I know teachers, I’ve been there, they’ll say, well, I already have a lot of things in my schedule. 

Well, what this is designed to do is to free up all the reminders you’re doing, constantly bringing a kid back on task, constantly managing behavior, because again, a dysregulated kid, he can look like a kid with ADHD, he can look like a kid who’s violent. It’s his nervous system’s response to stressors that might seem invisible to you.

Angela Kelly: It can also be your A plus student who’s super quiet in the back of the room but is so internally stressed and worried about like not getting the A, and they don’t speak up. They could totally be in fight or flight, but you don’t register it because it’s not a very explosive expression of dysregulation.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yeah. I mean, those are our internalizers, right? Those are those kids that are understimulated. And those kids I see more and more because we use grades as a benchmark for mental health. And I’m not saying educators do, but I’m saying that as a society, we do say, okay, well, they’re an A student, how could they be suicidal? Or they’re an A student, how could they have severe OCD? These are real conversations that I’ve had with…

Angela Kelly: I believe you, 100%.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: And we wait for the crash and burn, and those perfectionistic kids, I really don’t believe, and trust me, I practice this. I really don’t believe every kid should be in all honors classes. It’s just not necessary. I’m sorry. It’s not. Not everybody’s going to Yale and Harvard people. And I get it if that’s your ticket out because financially a kid needs to get a scholarship. Okay, I understand. I’m not naive. But we have all kinds of kids just, oh, burning the candles at both ends. There is a physiological limit. Now, on the other hand, as somebody who constantly is doing things all day to regulate themselves, I have a capacity to actually do a lot more than another an average person. 

So not only do I handle stress well, I can handle problems right in the moment better than 90% of people I know, even my people I love. Regulating first isn’t just a concept, it’s really something that we can take action on and bring to the table. It’s not getting rid of SEL curriculum. Heck no. What I’m saying is that’s going to get absorbed. You’re going to actually get better outcomes. We get better grades. Every school has to have certain standards. And so it starts bringing equity and accessibility regardless of what kind of district you have, regardless of what your students have at home, it helps makes the curriculum much more accessible, all curriculum, not just academic.

Angela Kelly: Beautiful. I love this conversation. I just want to close out by reminding everybody that when you regulate your nervous system, you actually create more bandwidth. So for us busy school leaders whose plates are full and overflowing, when you learn to self-regulate, you actually expand your capacity to do more because you’re able to regulate and keep going. Same will be true for teachers and same will be true for students. 

So this work, this self-regulation, learning these skills, having teachers teach this in their classrooms, and then teaching students how to do it, that is going to expand your entire, you know, school’s capacity to, I want to say more productive, but not in a way that’s from stress and pressure and force, it’s from a capacity building standpoint. Would you say?

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Yeah, oh, absolutely. You’re just going to have more capacity for so many things in your life, having patience for others, grace for yourself, because I think we’re all so overloaded. Teachers are predominantly women. Women have a lot on their shoulders. I’m not saying dads don’t either. My husband’s amazing. But we are now just so maxed out. 

And I think we think that, what I want to say is little micro moments are like putting money in your 401k, and it starts building and building and building, and we have to do this. You can’t just wait for the running on the weekend or a massage every two weeks. That’s not cutting it. You need to start bringing this into your daily life multiple times a day, and it’s easy, easy, easy, easy. This is not going to be something that’s riding on your shoulders. You’re going to start doing it automatically because it just creates capacity on a personal and professional level. Educators will be better human beings.

Angela Kelly: Wonderful. What a great way to kick off this new school year. Rosanne, thank you for your time. Thank you for being on this podcast. I’m so happy to see you. I’m so glad to hear you’re doing well and the book is now launching and I want to get this into the hands of all school leaders. I think it’s so important. I teach it at the school leadership level. You’re teaching it at the parental and, you know, teacher level, student level, and just thank you for being so willing to share your expertise, your wisdom, and knowledge with us today.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Well, thank you for this conversation.

Angela Kelly: It’s been so fun. Let’s do it again.

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge: Absolutely.

Angela Kelly: All right, take care. That’s it, folks. We’ve got to wrap up. She’s got another appointment and I’ve got to run. So have a beautiful week. Please let us know how this impacted you, how it inspired you, and how it’s setting you up for success in your upcoming school year. Have a wonderful week. Talk to you soon. Take care. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Power of Authenticity in Leadership

Authenticity is the foundation of strong leadership and essential for creating lasting impact.

In this episode, I explore the distractions of trends, external opinions, the pressure to fit in, and why chasing these can pull leaders away from their most authentic and powerful selves. I share examples from my experience coaching school leaders and reflect on how the power of authenticity grounds your leadership energy. By understanding your natural tendencies, values, and philosophy, you can make decisions that align with your vision, foster trust, and create stability for your staff and students.

Tune in this week to discover how embracing your true self can transform your leadership. You’ll learn how to recognize external pressures, make aligned decisions, and maintain clarity and confidence in your approach.

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What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • How authenticity grounds your leadership and provides stability.
  • Why chasing trends or external approval can undermine your influence.
  • Ways to recognize and manage external pressures on your decisions.
  • How understanding your natural tendencies supports aligned leadership.
  • The impact of authentic decision-making on staff, students, and school culture.
  • Strategies for leading confidently without compromising your values.
  • How to cultivate leadership energy that is consistent, empowering, and sustainable.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 448. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not-so-typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Hello, my empowered principals. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the end of July. We are gearing it up, aren’t we? Many of you are having your leadership retreats, professional developments. You’re doing all this planning. You’re in it. I am working with my new crew of clients, wonderful, wonderful leaders. I am so excited for this year. I love the energy of a new year. I’m looking forward to coaching and creating and really developing high levels of impact in our schools this year.

I believe with all of my heart that true transformation is occurring. As we speak, we are in it. We are in a moment of transformation in our schools. And that’s what I want to talk about today is the power of authenticity. I believe and I am witnessing the power of leaders going back to themselves, using what they know to be true, staying true to themselves, and creating true connections, true relationships, true conversations, and allowing themselves to be authentic.

Because we’re in a world where we are bombarded by other people’s opinions, other people’s emotions, other people’s belief systems, where the internet will provide anyone and everyone access to our time, our attention, our energy, our minds. Have you noticed that? The internet has this sneaky little way of letting the entire world into our space. And we forget that we are the gatekeeper of our authenticity, what we desire, what we want, how we want to create it, who we want to be. 

And we’re in a world where people feel very entitled to judge us, to critique, to give advice on how you should live, how you should lead, how you should lead your school, lead your life, how you should breathe. And that volume of external input into our lives can feel so intense that we’d rather be someone who just fits in or appears to fit in and be a person who is liked because the anticipation, just the anticipation of doing something or saying something that doesn’t fit in or that somebody doesn’t like is going to lead us into being canceled, not being chosen to participate, being rejected, or not belonging, no longer fitting into our school or our district or even the entire industry of education.

The fear is real. We see it happen to people. So what do we do? What I have observed, what I have witnessed, actually, even what I’ve experienced, is that we jump on the bandwagon. We adopt the latest trends. We talk about the latest conversations in education. We focus on what other schools, other leaders, other districts are doing. Why? Why do we do that? One, because we want to be engaged. We want to know. We want to be in the know. We want others to know we’re in the know. We want to be seen as knowledgeable. We want to learn and we want to try new things. We want to be included in that conversation. We want to be in the trend, inside of it. And of course, we want to succeed. We want the trend, whatever it is, to be successful for us and for our school.

And why do we want that? We want to be able to say, hey, if we don’t meet the goal, at least we tried the trend that other people said would work or that worked for other people. At least we knew about it and we tried, versus being told like, wait, didn’t you do this? Everybody’s doing this. Why didn’t you do this? You’re like, oh, wait, what? Well, I guess I better do that. But we’re not doing that thing, whatever it is. We’re not doing that thing because we believe it’s the right thing to do. It’s not action from authenticity. It’s action from anticipation of failing. It’s the desire to fit in and belong and to look good to everybody else, to trend, to be in the trend, right?

But what I’ve observed in myself, this is, I’m right here with you guys, and I’ve coached hundreds of leaders over the last decade. What the trends do and chasing the trends is that it leads us on a never-ending goose chase. It distracts us. It confuses us, and it disconnects us. So it’s just very distracting to be out there with all the trends and all the things. And yesterday this was the trend and tomorrow that’s going to be the trend, and we’ve got to keep up with the trends. We’re just distracted, running around crazy. 

But it also is very confusing. Wait a minute, I thought you said this would work. And last year it was that was going to work. And the year before that, and now this year, and this is why teachers are like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here’s this year’s initiative. Here’s this year’s trend. I’m just gonna let it pass. This too shall pass. So they don’t get invested because we’re chasing trends and we’re just trying to be in the know. And it disconnects us from what we think, what we know, what we believe, what we value, what is aligned for us, our school. 

We end up spending our time ensuring that we know the latest trends so we can be in the conversation, so we don’t look like the silly person who is the only one out of the loop. And we want to make sure that we’re in the know and that we’re acting in alignment to the trend versus acting in alignment with what actually we believe works for us. And hey, some of those trends out there, you’re like, that feels right. That feels like what I’ve been looking for, what I believe to be as the gap where I believe it’s missing. Yes, more of that, please. I feel drawn to it, aligned to it. That is different than, oh, I should be doing this because everybody else is.

So trend chasing and not being in our authenticity, disconnecting from that authenticity, it leaves us kind of changing direction with the wind, wherever the wind blows, whatever the next thing in education is. And we’ve seen this, we see it on social media. There’s constant trends. Something pops and now everybody’s doing it, trying to be seen for a minute, trying to get likes, trying to be noticed. And then that fades, and then you’ve got to try the next trend. And then you become the person who’s the person chasing the trends. But is it creating impact? Is it creating results?

Authenticity, it’s grounding. It is anchoring. It feels stable. You feel certainty. You feel assured. Have you ever been around a person whose energy is very authentic? They’re very anchoring. I have a girlfriend who I met when I was 22 years old, just out of college. I got married right out of college, moved to this little town, became the early childhood teacher and coordinator for their district, and this woman who has my heart and soul forever was my assistant in the classroom. 

She’s the most authentic human ever. She is so grounded, so peaceful, so loving. She gives the best hugs. And when I’m around her, I feel so held and loved and cherished and supported and believed in. She just feels like a warm, cozy blanket, her friendship, and it’s so real. Nothing sways her. She doesn’t beat to other people’s drums. She beats to her own. And in that authenticity, I feel stability with her. I feel genuine love and trust and safety.

I believe our schools need this. We need to come back to authenticity, come back to humanity, come back to human connection, conversation, collaboration. We need community. We don’t need trends. We need authenticity, decisions about what our school needs because we understand who we are as leaders. We understand our staff, we understand our students, we understand the families in our community, and we understand the principles and the values that feel authentic to us for our community. 

And these decisions have staying power. And they last because they’re grounded in authenticity. They are aligned. They’re the natural next step based on what we know our school needs, regardless of the trend. Some of the trends stick. Maybe one of the trends you tried five years ago is still working. And we’re not saying we do the same thing over and over expecting a different result. If it’s not getting the result, then it’s not authentically working. We have to be true to that as well.

This is about just being in our natural state as a leader. You’re introverted, extroverted? Are you faking it? Are you trying to be extroverted when you’re introverted? Or you’re very extroverted, but you’re turning down the volume because other people feel uncomfortable about your energy and your social activity in your community? I’m naturally extroverted and a lot of people don’t like that about me, whether they’re introverted or not, they don’t like that as a characteristic. I don’t change that because the times I have felt like I needed to change it because other people were bothered by it, and I would have to turn down the volume, I played small. It didn’t feel good for me. And I was not in my best leadership energy. 

I’m extroverted. Do I have times when I want to be alone? I like to work alone. I think better alone because I’m so social, I’m so extroverted that I get distracted, and I just want to be with the people. But when I need to get work done, I need to be alone. That’s all of me, authentically. Turning down my volume because I’m an extrovert, because other people feel bad when I’m too extroverted for their liking, does not make me authentic. And it’s exhausting. It’s like I’m holding in all the pressure. I don’t want anybody to see the truth. That’s exhausting.

And if you’re an introvert, like I have people in my life that are very introverted, quieter. It’s not that they don’t go and do social things, but they tend to listen and just observe more than they are like actively engaged in the conversation. But they’re still observant. They contribute, you know, when, what they want and when they want to and in the way that they want to. But if you ask an introverted person to be extroverted, it feels exhausting. It’s not authentic. Authenticity feels natural. It doesn’t consume energy.

Have you ever had the experience where as a teenager, your parents wouldn’t let you do something that other kids were allowed to do? So maybe you weren’t allowed to drive your friends around in your car. It had to be just you. Or maybe your parents wouldn’t let you go to big parties. Or maybe you had a curfew and other kids got to stay out much later than you. And you would beg and you would sulk and you would be so mad at your parents. “Everybody else is doing it, and you guys are the meanest, and I hate you, and why don’t you let me do anything? You’re no good. You’re no fun.”

And your parents would come back and say, “We understand. We don’t care what other families are doing. In this family, your safety comes first. This is what we value. This is what we believe in. This is who we are. We don’t want to not have boundaries. We don’t want to not have curfews or rules.” 

And they would just hold true to that parenting belief, and nothing would sway them. Even though you were so mad and rolled your eyes and slammed the door and gave them the silent treatment, they held tight because they believed that was the best decision for their family. They were allowing you to be mad at them, allowing them to be the uncool parents. They allowed you to hate them. They allowed whoever, your friends, to think that they were the mean parents, and they allowed it because it meant being true to themselves as parents. And that mattered more to them than being cool or fitting in or having you like them in the moment.

That’s what authenticity is. It’s grounding. It’s natural. You can allow other people to have different opinions, and it doesn’t sway you. You’re solid. I have to tell you, I just had a consult call this week with a young man who has so much wisdom, so much skill, so much talent, so much charisma. I thoroughly enjoyed speaking with him. And we were chatting about the interview process and how easy it is to get caught up in responding in a way that we believe the panel wants to hear. We start wondering, did I say the right thing? Did I do the right thing? Did I say enough? Did I say too much? 

And we start to waver in our authenticity, in our identity. We start to try and control our identity and how people perceive us in an interview because we want so badly to fit in, to belong, to not get rejected, to get hired, to land the job so we can go do what we love to do. And we sometimes will answer in ways during that interview, thinking more about what the panel wants to hear and how we’re being perceived versus answering from the depth of our heart and soul, regardless of whether they agree with us or not. So it’s important to have those values, those philosophies, your principles when it comes to being a principal, and staying true to that.

Because if the goal leans towards trying to be trendy, trying to be in the know, trying to razzle-dazzle other people with what they want to hear, what they tend to believe, what’s popular for the moment, then we are doomed to be in a leadership experience that is built upon pretending and faking it and being trendy, based on what the whim of others want in the moment or what’s popular in the moment, and that is so exhausting. 

Being authentic means being true to what you believe, no matter what, knowing what you believe, first of all, and then staying true to it until something comes in that may invite you to adjust your thinking. You believe something until something compels you to believe otherwise. You stay open, but you don’t waver on every single person’s opinion or every single whim. 

So speaking to your philosophy, your ideas, your approach, what you believe, you think will create genuine impact and empowerment in your staff and your students, allowing yourself not to be a match for every school out there, but to insist that you find the best match for you. You’re a match for them, they’re a match for you. Trusting there’s a school who is aching to have you and only you, your style, your flair, your personality, your skill set, your wisdom, fully authentically you as their leader.

And hey, I know this, being authentic is vulnerable. Not everyone is going to accept your vision, your beliefs, your approach. Not everyone’s going to decide to hire you, and that can be hurtful. But when we trust I’d rather be authentic than be liked or trending because it’s so short-lived, that’s the whole point. The goal’s not to be liked by the masses, which by the way is impossible. I mean, I think about vanilla ice cream. There are a bazillion ice cream flavors in the world. Some are very exotic, some are very simple. Vanilla, it’s the universal flavor. It’s simple, it’s very easygoing, it doesn’t stain if you spill. It can be mixed with other flavors. It kind of leans toward boring and uneventful. 

And even then, as unthreatening as vanilla ice cream flavor is, there are people who don’t like it or don’t prefer it. So there’s no amount of blending in and trending that you can do as a school leader to be liked by everyone. The minute you do something in the effort to be liked, the trend will change. And then people don’t like the trend. There’s always an anti-trend to the trend. The trend kind of trends up and then everybody’s doing it, and then somebody comes in and says, nope, opposite. That happens in education. It’s very cyclical all the time.

So the, a minute you initiate an educational trend simply because it’s what everyone’s talking about and it sounds like maybe this is it, this is the quick fix, it will have backlash. And then another trend will roll right into town. You’ve experienced this, I’m sure, right? But what has staying power, what’s tried and true, at least in the human experience, is the frequency of authenticity. 

So allow yourself to be true as a leader. Be in alignment with the needs of your school, your staff, your students, even when what you guys are focusing on at your school goes against the current trend. If it’s working, keep at it. If it’s not working, explore what might work and why do you believe that that will work? Not just because it’s trending, but because you believe it’s the next best step. That’s authentic decision-making in school leadership.

So this year, I invite you to focus on your authenticity, what feels natural for you, what feels good for you, what feels true for you, what naturally draws you in. What consistencies do you believe your school community needs from its educators, from its leader? Connect with this leadership approach. Give it a try. Let us know the impact it creates. I’d love to hear your story.

Have a beautiful week. I care about you all so very much. I look forward to celebrating your authenticity. Talk next week. Take good care. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | Secrets of the Successful School Leader

Being a successful school leader requires more than managing schedules and programs; it requires self-awareness, intentionality, and the ability to inspire your staff and students. In this episode, I share insights from my experience working with school leaders to reveal the habits, mindsets, and strategies that distinguish those who thrive from those who struggle.

I explore the differences between leaders who lead from fear, self-doubt, or reactivity, and those who operate with clarity, confidence, and purpose. I also share how successful leaders balance emotional regulation with action, foster trust, and create environments where educators feel empowered and supported.

Tune in to discover the key principles that underpin effective school leadership. You’ll learn how to navigate challenges, make confident decisions, and cultivate a culture of empowerment that positively impacts staff, students, and the broader school community.

The Empowered Principal Academy is designed to help school leaders like yourself bring out the best in those you lead. If you want to master the art of coaching so you can become a master at school leadership, this program is for you. We start very soon, so click here to find out more and join.

What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • How successful school leaders balance action with reflection.
  • Key differences between reactive leadership and empowered decision-making.
  • Strategies for fostering trust and collaboration within your staff.
  • How emotional awareness and regulation impact leadership effectiveness.
  • Ways to cultivate a culture where staff and students feel supported and empowered.
  • How to navigate challenges while maintaining clarity, confidence, and focus.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 447. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not-so-typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Well, hello my empowered leaders. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the podcast. And hey, if you’re a brand new school leader and you’re just now learning about The Empowered Principal® Podcast, we welcome you. I’m so happy you are here. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, your strength, your gifts with your school, your colleagues, your students, the world. It is such a delight to meet you here through the podcast. So, definitely shout out, say hello, come say hello on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, wherever you find yourself hanging out with fellow school leaders. We would love to have you a member of our empowered principal community. So welcome.

Today, I’m going to drop the secrets of successful school leadership and successful school leaders. These secrets were inspired by my own failures. Everything that I’ve done wrong as a school leader and the insights, the experience, the wisdom, the knowledge that I have gained in my own mistakes, my own coaching while I was a principal, I had a coach, a life coach, but life and leadership go hand in hand, and in my experience and in my learning over the last decade as a coach helping other school leaders become very successful.

And I thought, I’m going to write these out in terms of how I experience them and things I’ve observed and things I’ve read, things I’ve experienced. And I’m saying them straight away. And I want to preface these secrets in that some will really resonate with you. Others won’t. That’s okay. These are just my personal experiences, what I have learned, what I believe to be true, and what I’ve observed in other people. So some will hit, some will land, some won’t. That’s okay.

Some of them, they will feel very aligned. You’ll be like, yes, that’s so true. I believe that. And others will trigger you. They will awaken you. They will jolt you. You’ll have a little identity shake for a minute. That’s okay. They’re not intended to make you feel any kind of pain. They’re intended to create awareness and to create alignment and to just awaken you and engage you in who you want to be, how you want to feel, and the approach you would desire to take in leadership. That’s simply what these are.

These are the secrets I have found. I would love to hear what you think when you listen to this podcast. So, if you would so delight me in sharing your thoughts, your questions in either the Facebook group or you can message me personally on Facebook or Instagram. I do hang out on LinkedIn every now and then, but primarily Facebook and Instagram. And tell me what you think, because they’re here to support, to empower, to help you, okay? All right. I’m just going to read them as I wrote them, and I will leave it at that.

Successful school leaders believe that they have power and agency, regardless of their title, position, or status. They believe that they always contain personal power, personal agency.

Struggling leaders, on the other hand, believe that other people, situations, circumstances, things outside of their being have power over them and that they lack personal agency.

Successful leaders focus on their successes. They think about them, they study them, they celebrate them, they acknowledge them.

Struggling leaders tend to focus on their failures, the disappointments, the not reaching the goals, the disappointments, the rejections, all of the things that didn’t go right. That’s where they’re spending their time, their energy, their attention, and their focus.

Successful leaders are committed to empowerment. They’re dedicated to it. They’re convicted to experiencing and expanding their personal power.

Struggling leaders are very committed to comfort. They don’t want to go out of their comfort zone. They like to stay in what they know.

Successful leaders stay connected to their vision and allow the vision to grow bigger and to be bigger than they think they can even achieve. They let it go big.

Struggling leaders tend to dim their vision when challenges arise. They don’t want to dream big because they don’t want to be disappointed. They want to be there, not here. And they feel like they’re chasing the end of a rainbow. And when challenges arise, they dim. They go small. Successful leaders play big. Struggling leaders play small.

Successful leaders frame obstacles as opportunities for improvement. They look at it as an awareness tool to say, oh, I didn’t realize this was a problem, but now that it is, let’s create a solution. Let’s create an answer. Let’s improve this.

Struggling leaders frame obstacles as reasons why things can’t improve. It’s either themselves, the obstacle itself, other people. That’s the reason. That’s the excuse as to why we can’t improve, that things will never change.

Successful leaders collaborate and seek to engage with like-minded leaders. They connect with fellow leaders who are positive and empowered. They want to connect with people of the same mindset.

Struggling leaders will isolate and hide for the fear that they’ll be seen as incompetent, ineffective, or incapable. And they want to protect and hide themselves, so they will self-isolate, and then they say that they feel lonely in the job. But successful leaders don’t feel lonely. They’re out there engaging and collaborating and having conversations and joining groups and going to conferences and calling their friends and colleagues.

Successful leaders believe they can handle whatever comes their way and that their ability to problem solve is greater than the problem itself.

Struggling leaders believe that the problem is greater or bigger than their capacity to handle whatever comes their way.

Successful leaders give feedback and are equally willing to receive it.

Struggling leaders fear giving feedback and they fear receiving feedback. They fear feedback because they label it as insufficient. If you’re getting feedback, you’re insufficient. If you’re giving it but you’re insufficient, then you’re an imposter. There is a relationship with feedback that determines success and struggling leaders.

Successful school leaders trust that they are equipped with the resources they need, and they leverage those resources, the ones that they actually have.

Struggling leaders will lack trust in themselves and in the resources available to them. They think that something outside of themselves or outside of what they already have available to them is the answer. This leaves struggling leaders chasing, always chasing external answers, the next shiny object, the next prize, the next solution. They think that it’s outside of them. They don’t understand that the solution is within.

Successful leaders trust in the ever abundance of time.

Struggling leaders focus on a lack of time.

Successful school leaders plan and prepare, and then they allow for that plan and all those preparations to go right out the window. They plan and prepare, but then they detach from the plan, trusting that what does come up is now the new plan.

Struggling leaders will plan, prepare, and then attach to the plan and become very frustrated when the plan changes, and then give up on planning and preparing because what’s the point? And then they are underprepared.

Successful leaders empower their teams to work for the greater good. They will onboard, train, and delegate.

Struggling leaders disempower themselves and other people by trying to do it all, know it all, be it all, and control it all. Onboarding plus delegation equals success.

Successful leaders manage their emotions and their minds very well.

Struggling leaders allow their emotions and their mind to manage them.

Successful leaders understand that fear is just a normal part of the leadership emotional experience. They allow it to be present, and they move forward anyway.

Struggling leaders will interpret fear as something’s gone wrong, and I need to steer away from this, to avoid the actions that bring up fear.

Successful leaders embody lifelong learning. They embrace being new, and they value personal and professional development and evolution.

Struggling leaders will prioritize comfort, ease, and the familiar.

I’m going to leave it here and allow you to ponder. And I know some of these may feel triggering for you, but let them in a good way, a very healthy way. Notice, did any of these feel offensive or anger you in any way? If so, why? What comes up for you? Is it defensiveness? Do you feel the desire to try and justify yourself or explain it away or reject it all together to argue it, to avoid it, to ignore it? 

Because remember, all of these came from things that I have done. I have pretended to know. I have had a lack of time. I’ve had a lot of scarcity around resources. I’ve believed that the solution was out of me. I didn’t think I was capable enough. I’ve had all the thoughts, and they lead to inaction or small action, less impactful action.

You can see these secrets as opportunities for awareness, alignment, momentum, and growth. And as I’ve said, I have been on the struggling side of each of these, personally. And I have also been able to embrace the successful mindset. And not in a way that I’ve arrived and I’m never going to struggle again, but really as just an awareness tool, like, oh, I recognize this pattern of thinking. I’ve done this before. I’ve seen this before. I’m aware again. Now that I’m aware, I can redirect, reframe, realign, and get back into momentum.

Because this list, and it’s just a list, there’s a million more truths out there in terms of leadership secrets, but these are for me personally, they allow me to adjust and to focus on successful trains of thought. And at the end of the day, this list of secrets is really nothing more than just at least for me, truths that I have observed in both myself and in the hundreds of people I’ve worked with over the course of my career. 

And now, they’re no longer secrets. I’ve given them to you. They’re opportunities, and they are available to you. So listen to this, print out the transcript, read it over, notice which ones align, which ones feel a little crunchy, and work with them. See if you can get into alignment with them. See if they work for you. And if they don’t, drop them. They’re not etched in stone. They’re just my personal experience.

But if this really resonates with you, if it ignites you and excites you, then the Empowered Principal programs were designed exactly for someone like you, a school leader like you, whether you join the Empowered Principal Collaborative, which is a group coaching program, or you decide to jump into EPA, which is a deep dive intensive instructional coaching and mentoring program, or if you’re personally drawn to one-on-one coaching, which is very private, customized, and personalized to your specific experiences, whichever way you’re leaning, these programs were designed for you. Have a beautiful week. I love you all. Take good care, and we’ll talk next week. Bye.

Thanks for listening to this episode of The Empowered Principal® Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, please visit AngelaKellyCoaching.com where you can sign up for weekly updates and learn more about the tools that will help you become an emotionally fit school leader.

 

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Empowered Principal Academy: Mastering Coaching & Leadership

Leadership isn’t about getting people to comply; it’s about inspiring them into action. In this special episode, I introduce The Empowered Principal Academy (EPA), my newest and most comprehensive leadership development program designed to help school leaders master the art of coaching, mentoring, and instructional leadership.

I share why coaching is the missing leadership skill that most principals were never taught, yet one that has the power to transform school culture, empower educators, and create a ripple effect that impacts students. EPA represents the next evolution of leadership growth, providing principals with the skills, mindset, and support to elevate their schools and staff in meaningful, lasting ways.

If you’re ready to move beyond simply managing people and step into leading with purpose, influence, and intentional empowerment, this episode offers an exciting invitation to join the program. You’ll hear why now is the perfect time to invest in yourself as a leader, expand your impact, and create a lasting legacy for your school community.

The Empowered Principal Academy is designed to help school leaders like yourself bring out the best in those you lead. If you want to master the art of coaching so you can become a master at school leadership, this program is for you. We start very soon, so click here to find out more and join.

What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • Why true leadership is about inspiring action, not controlling people.
  • The difference between managing schools and coaching educators.
  • Why coaching is one of the most essential (and often overlooked) skills for instructional leaders.
  • How empowering teachers and staff creates a ripple effect that impacts students and entire school communities.
  • The connection between personal growth, professional development, and leadership effectiveness.
  • What the new Empowered Principal Academy offers and who it is designed to serve.
  • How mastering coaching, mentoring, and leadership can elevate your impact and legacy as a school leader

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 446.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not-so-typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Well, hello my empowered principals. Happy July. Happy summer of fun. I hope you are having the most delightful summer. And hey, if you are on Facebook, you need to come into the Empowered Principal Facebook group. I want you winning for having fun. I want you to be rewarded for having fun. There are a few weeks left in the Empowered Principal Facebook group Summer of Fun challenge. The more you have fun, the more chances you get to win Empowered Principal credits. So, I hope, I know you’re out there having a blast. Keep it rolling. Okay.

Today I am announcing something very big, very near and dear to my heart. Something I have been working on. It feels like a birth. It feels like something I have birthed into the world that has been a labor of love, a work of art, a masterpiece in the making, and it’s just the beginning. It’s just evolving. It’s never complete, as you know. Our work is always a masterpiece in progress. 

And I am so deeply honored, excited, and delighted to share with you the newest upcoming program for the 26-27 school year. I feel like it is a part of me. It is the work I have been cultivating for the last decade of my life and my career, and it is culminating into the most powerful and beautiful program. It has transformed me personally, professionally, as a coach, as a mentor, and I cannot wait to tell you all about it.

So if you think about your job, your role in leadership, leading people is getting them to act, to take action. Leading your team, your staff, even your students, and leading up, leading your administrative team at the top, if you’re at a site, is leading people to set ideas and plans into motion.

Leadership is about generating momentum. It’s about taking action in spite of fear. It’s about trying and being willing to fail and then getting up, dusting yourself off, licking your wounds, and trying again. It’s not about, and I really want to emphasize this, leadership is not about getting people to do what you want them to do or what you believe or have been told that the district wants them to do. That’s not leadership. We get that confused.

True leadership is about inviting people into their own inertia, their own empowerment. And with this concept of leadership being motion, I want to invite you into this brand new Empowered Principal program that was personally designed with you, the listener. Yes, you. With you personally in mind as an empowered principal. If you’re listening to this podcast, this new program was created for you. Because if you’re listening to this podcast, if you are referring this podcast, if you are consuming this podcast like Netflix and you’re binging on it, great.

You understand that your leadership job is to inspire people into motion, into taking action yourself that evolves them and invites them to take action, both personally and professionally. Your role as an instructional leader is to ignite the motion of learning. Learning by doing, learning by trying, learning by failing, by trying again, by exploring, by expanding, by evolving. Your role as an instructional leader is to lead others towards their own advancement academically, socially, emotionally, personally, professionally. We lead ourselves into motion to help others do the same.

Your role as an instructional leader is to coach, to mentor, to guide. And you know what? No one taught us how to coach as school leaders. We were expected to know how when we got the job. To simply transfer our skills of teaching children into teaching adults, but it doesn’t exactly translate the same, does it? At least for me it didn’t and those that I have coached over the last decade. Our role as instructional leaders is such a significant part of our job, yet it often becomes the role that gets lost in the shuffle of managing the people, the places, the things.

So let’s reconnect with our desire to impact as instructional leaders through the Empowered Principal Academy. EPA, the Empowered Principal Academy, is my newest and most in-depth program that teaches school leaders the art of instructional leadership. 

EPA was developed to help you bring out the best in those you lead because coaching is the practice of embracing empowerment for us as the leader and coach, for them as the educator, the paraprofessional, the staff member, the office member, the entire support team. For the greater impact on our students, our school community, our greater community, and eventually the world. Because each and every student whose lives you touch, your community touches, your staff touches, touches the world.

We can never know the reach and impact that one student will have in the world. And you take that times 500 students per year, times 10, 20, 30 years of education, your impact knows no limits. Imagine each member of your staff and student community fully embodying their own empowerment. I want you to sit here with me and feel that, the magnitude of our potential.

Coaching is the beauty of evolution and creation. It is the gift of development and expansion. The art of living a life that is a legacy to you and to those whose lives you touch. Where you as the leader have the opportunity to provide others the opportunity to create the life experiences and the career of their dreams, both in your students and your staff, because coaching is opportunity.

It is about our identity, ever evolving as leaders, as teachers, as support staff, as students, as parents, as community members, so that we can all inspire one another into the evolution of our own expanded identity. It doesn’t end. We want the people we work with, the students that we’re teaching, to own their empowerment, because leadership is mentorship. Leadership is teaching. Leadership is coaching.

Mentorship is a form of education because personal growth equals professional development. The more one grows personally, the more they grow professionally. That includes us. Mastering the art of coaching develops you as a master at school leadership. This is about you, them, and the greater good. I personally will be your host and master coach instructor in the Empowered Principal Academy.

I invite you to join me on this journey of mastering the art of coaching, the art of mentoring, the art of school leadership, the art of empowerment. We start this July 2026. I welcome you in.

Thanks for listening to this episode of The Empowered Principal® Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, please visit AngelaKellyCoaching.com where you can sign up for weekly updates and learn more about the tools that will help you become an emotionally fit school leader.

 

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | New Beginnings in School Leadership and The Empowered Principal Academy

A new school year is the perfect opportunity for fresh starts and renewed focus.

In this episode, I share insights on embracing new beginnings in school leadership and introduce The Empowered Principal Academy, my newest program designed to equip leaders with the tools, mindset, and strategies to thrive in their roles.

Join me this week to learn how to set intentions for your leadership, manage transitions, and approach challenges with clarity and confidence. I share practical ways to start the year with energy, focus, and a sense of purpose while creating environments that empower your staff, students, and school community. You’ll walk away with actionable steps for building momentum, setting meaningful goals, and stepping into the school year with clarity, confidence, and empowered purpose.

The Empowered Principal Academy is designed to help school leaders like yourself bring out the best in those you lead. If you want to master the art of coaching so you can become a master at school leadership, this program is for you. We start very soon, so click here to find out more and join.

What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • How to embrace new beginnings and fresh perspectives as a school leader.
  • Practical strategies for starting the school year with clarity and focus.
  • Ways to set meaningful intentions and goals for your leadership role.
  • How to build momentum and energy for yourself and your school team.
  • Insights into The Empowered Principal Academy and how it supports leadership growth.
  • Tips for creating empowering environments for staff, students, and the school community.
  • How to approach transitions, challenges, and change with resilience and confidence.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 445.

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host certified life coach Angela Kelly.

Hello, my Empowered Principals. Happy Tuesday, and welcome to the podcast. I am in such empowered energy. I feel new beginnings coming for all of us. I recently recorded a Facebook Live in the Empowered Principal Facebook group. So for those of you who haven’t yet joined us, please join us. We would love to have you in there. We are in the middle of the Summer of Fun challenge, and we are having fun. I hope that you will join us because when you join us, when you comment, when you post, when you like, you’re entered into a drawing to win $1,111 worth of Empowered Principal credits towards any of my coaching programs.

And I’m going to be talking more about the coaching programs for the upcoming school year because July is the new beginning. It’s the new month of the new contract. It’s the new energy of a new school year. We are planning, we are preparing for great things to happen. And what I love about new beginning energy is that anything is possible. It’s a fresh start. It is a clean slate. So, let’s talk about new beginnings, and then I’m going to tell you all about the upcoming programs for the 2026-27 school year. All right.

New beginnings, what are they? When I think about a new beginning, a new beginning is starts with a thought. It starts with a desire. We desire to experience something new. We desire to try something new, to start something new, to learn something new, to experience something new. It starts with a desire. And it also starts with a belief that we are capable of having or trying or experiencing the new thing, that we are capable of learning, that we are capable of having, that we are capable of experiencing, that we are capable of accomplishing it. We have a desire. The desire is the hunger, the drive, the energy, the fuel, the emotions behind it.

So when you think about new beginnings for you, the first year you ever taught was a new beginning. That was a first year. You had dreams, you had visions of what teaching would look like and feel like. You dreamed the experience. You had a desire to educate, to connect with kids, to make an impact on their lives and in the greater world. And then you get into that first year, and it isn’t exactly what you envisioned, right? It’s new. It’s uncharted territory. It’s trailblazing. It’s the first time you’ve ever done something.

And then at the end of that first year, you have thoughts and feelings and opinions about the year, about that first year. And what happens with a new beginning is we go through the new beginning, it’s all uncharted, we don’t know what we don’t know until we experience it. We have ups, we have downs, we have wins, we have fails, we have great days, we have terrible days. We shed tears of joy, tears of sadness and grief and pain and regrets or reflection. And at the end of that new beginning, what we do is we’re like, okay, I don’t want to experience the pain points of that new beginning, so I’m going to brace myself for the next year upcoming. I’m going to think about all the things that didn’t work and I’m going to fix them so I don’t have to experience that again. But I’m going to bring this year with me into year two.

But what we do if we’re not careful is we bring everything with us, the good, bad, and the ugly. So we bring the wisdom. Here’s what I learned about classroom management. I’m going to change these things this year. This is the wisdom I’ve gained from my new beginning. But I didn’t like this, so I’m going to brace for that. I’m going to try to prepare because I expect that bad things could happen and I don’t want bad things to happen.

So new beginnings are that fresh start. I want to offer something about new beginnings. We actually desire new beginnings. We don’t want to experience the same year over and over and over. So for those of you who are brand new, coming into school leadership, you are already perfectly aligned with the new leadership energy. You’re already in it. You don’t have to think about it or to align yourself. You’re right there. So stay with me here.

And for those of you who are veterans, this is especially important for you to consider. When we are veterans, it can be easy to go on autopilot. It’s like learning to drive. In the beginning, you are very aware of all the gadgets, all the lights, all the sounds, all the buzzing, all the cars around you, very, very hyper-aware because we want to do it right, we want to be careful, we don’t know what we’re doing. We turn the radio off, we are focusing, concentrating. It’s brand new. But after a few years, we just get in and we’re on autopilot and sometimes we don’t even remember actually driving because our thoughts were elsewhere. But it’s rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.

The same thing can be true for the school year. It’s like, well, last year sucked, so this year’s probably going to suck, so I probably should prepare to brace myself or try to avoid as much suckiness as possible, right? We anticipate the pain points. We anticipate what could go wrong, and then we end up preparing ourselves for the worst-case scenario while not really anticipating the best-case scenario. We’re thinking like, oh gosh, this group of students, this staff, this community, this group of parents, they’re really tough, so next year’s going to be tough as well versus I extract what I learned from last year. I glean the wisdom like I scrape the wisdom off the top, but I release the rest. I honor the pain, I honor the learning points, I celebrate the wins, I celebrate the good in all of last year, but I release it.

If we can go into the new school year as an actual new school year with a brand new fresh lens, imagine going into your school and meeting your teachers again for the first time, meeting families and students again for the first time, being on that campus again for the first time, looking around, noticing the little things, being the first-day driver, being in that seat where you’re looking around, noticing such awareness, such deep awareness of every little detail. Because here’s the truth, your students coming in are not the same students they were at the beginning of last year. They’re different humans. They’re different little people. Your staff, they are not the same staff that you had last year. They have changed, they have grown, they are different people.

Just as you, over the summer, have grown, have evolved. You might not think so, but you have, whether that’s you’ve gotten physical rest, you’ve spent time with your family and friends, you’ve filled that emotional bucket, you’ve had a lot of fun in the Summer of Fun challenge, you’ve gone on your trips, you’ve been to leadership retreats, you’ve done strategic planning with your community and your stakeholders, whatever it is that you have done in the last month, six weeks, eight weeks, you have evolved, you’ve changed.

So nobody coming into your school is the same human, and yet we label people based on the past all of the time. We label ourselves based on the past all of the time versus looking through the lens of a new beginning, a fresh start, truly a fresh start. Because the truth is every single minute of every single day is a fresh start, a fresh opportunity. And our experience as school leaders, our experience as students and staff and families, community, the experience that we have is based on how we’re thinking, what we’re focusing on. Are we focusing on the past? Are we making assumptions about the past? Or are we putting on a new lens and looking through the lens of fresh starts, new beginnings?

I’m telling you, school leaders out there, you have the opportunity in your hands to create an entirely different experience this year simply by going into your mind and into your heart and allowing things to be brand new, looking through the lens of newness, fresh starts, not labeling kids, trusting that they have changed and evolved, treating them with empowerment, treating them with respect in the sense of honoring who they’ve become, giving them a fresh start, a clean slate.

You know when you make a mistake with a friend or a partner or a colleague and you feel terrible about it and you’ve apologized, you’ve made it right, you’ve tried to repair and move forward, and you’re telling yourself and telling them, “I’m going to be better, do better.” You want to be forgiven. You want a clean slate. You want people to not continue to label you for that thing that you did back in last October. You want a clean slate. Our kids want that too. Our teachers want that too.

And so if you’re having a hard time giving people new beginnings, why is that? That’s the internal work. What is the fear? Usually, in my work with clients, the fear is they’ll do it to me again. Shame on me. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me, right? And we are afraid to trust. We’re afraid to think of people with a clean slate to remove the labels because what happens if they do it again?

So let’s go down the path. Let’s say you come in with the old lens on, the lens of last year, the lens of, new school year, same stuff, same people, same game, same cast of characters here. So you’re going to come in with predetermined expectations of who’s going to behave well, who’s not going to behave well, who’s going to achieve, who’s not going to achieve, who’s going to be in an intervention, who’s not going to be in an intervention, what teachers are going to do well, what grade levels are going to do well, what departments are going to do well. We already kind of come in with the script already written for the school year. And that script will play out if this is what you believe will happen, because what you believe will happen is what will happen.

So this work is about playing a new game, a new beginning. What if we wrote a new script? What if we tried something different? And you can play around this summer right now. You can try a new food, you can try a new way to work, try a new coffee shop, try a new department store, try a new grocery store, whatever. Try something new just to get comfortable and normalize trying new things, new beginnings, fresh starts. Start a new morning routine. If you love your morning routine, start a new evening routine. Pick a routine you’d like to try something new at and just try it because what we do in school is we brace ourselves for what we think already is. We already have decided what it will be and then it plays out that way.

You don’t want the school year to look like last year. And even if you had an amazing school year, you want this year to be a different kind of amazing, with new heights, new achievements, new accomplishments, new connections, new collaborations. You still want new, even when it’s good. We try to avoid change when things are good, and we desperately beg for change when things are bad, yet we don’t really believe they’ll turn around for us.

If there’s one thing, one gift I could leave in the world of education, it is the understanding that our thoughts are energy. Our emotions are fuel, energetic fuel for our actions. So our thoughts are energy that trigger emotional energy, that trigger actionable energy, that trigger outcomes and results. If we could see that what we believe is what we create, is the outcomes we create, if we could really harness that, you would have a new beginning every day, every week, every month, every season, every year. You would look through the lens like a child looks through the lens. Every Christmas is the best Christmas. Every birthday, they’re excited. Every school year, right? Until they also start to realize same year, same school, it’s going to just be the same thing over and over. “I didn’t like school last year. I’m not going to like school this year.” They too get into that kind of vortex of negativity, of stagnancy.

So why don’t we do this? Why don’t we simply decide that we are going to look through the lens of new beginnings? This is a new beginning. This can be an entirely different school year, whether you are technically brand new in the job or whether you’ve been doing this for 20 years. Look through the lens of brand new, different. What is it you want to see? Pretend you’re putting on brand new glasses for the first time and you’re looking through your campus, you’re meeting people. Can you imagine going up to the person that you struggled with last year and being genuinely happy to see them, shaking their hand, looking forward to working with them because you know that they’ve gone through change? And your energy and you believing in them will be reflected back to you. And because people have free will, even when people, when they human, and they make mistakes or they behave in old patterns, you can know that people will still behave in old patterns, and you can still respond differently. You can change and make it new by changing the way you respond even when they respond the same way. That’s how you create new.

So, yes, people have free will to behave how they want. We don’t control their behavior, but your energy coming in, assuming positive intention, assuming professional and personal growth, assuming evolution, evolvement, assuming desire in them, you can meet them and they can meet you however they’re going to meet you, but the way that you interact, the way you set your intentions, the way you project your energy, that’s the new thing. And that’s what we’re doing in the world of the Empowered Principal. That’s what this podcast is about. That’s what the Facebook group is about. That’s what my programming is all about, my paid programming.

So if you desire to see through a new lens, to experience school leadership in an entirely different way, to feel the excitement and engagement of being new, anticipating great things, preparing, expecting that great things will come. You know how you go on vacation? The anticipation is half the fun. When you’re shopping and you’re packing, you’re anticipating a good outcome, a positive experience. You’re expecting great things, great memories. Very few people plan a vacation so that they can doom and gloom and anticipate everything going wrong. I’m sure there’s people out there who do that, but most of us, the reason we go on vacation, we are preparing to receive a positive experience. I want us to do that with our school year.

We’re going to pack and prepare and plan as though everything’s going to be amazing, even though we know it might rain a couple of days on our vacation, or even when a suitcase goes missing and shows up a week late, there will be hiccups in our vacation, but we’re focused on the great things. We’re preparing and expecting for an amazing school year. We’re packing for it, we’re planning for it, we’re preparing for it, we’re onboarding for it, we’re showing up in the anticipation of amazing accomplishments, amazing connections, amazing collaborations. We are expecting it. That’s what new beginnings is about.

So, for this coming year, there are some new beginnings in the world of the Empowered Principal. Are you ready for it? Okay. I have three offers for this coming year. Offer number one is my standard, classic one-on-one coaching. This is where I started. It’s the foundation of my work. For the first few years of my business, I only coached one-on-one. I started with one client, and then two, and then I had four, and then I had six, and then it was 10, and then it got up to 24. I had 24 one-on-one clients, which I was bursting at the seams because I was coaching for an hour per client plus extra bonus calls as they needed them.

So I was coaching over 24 hours a week plus all of the back-end work. That’s when I decided to launch EPC, the Empowered Principal Collaborative. It’s a group mastermind. It’s a group coaching program for people who love to connect, who love to collaborate, who love to be around like-minded people. It’s a more mastermind experience. It’s a weekly group coaching program. We meet via Zoom. It’s once a week, but the beautiful thing about EPC is that it’s a collaborative. You are hearing other people’s wins, fails, successes, trials, challenges, and they’re getting coached on it, which coaches you. You feel not alone in this group. Other people are going through some of the similar things that you’re going through. It’s synergy. I think it’s one of the most empowering ways to learn and to be coached.

One-on-one is excellent for very high-level coaching, and it’s excellent for beginning coaching. It kind of hits on the ends. If you need confidential, private coaching because you’re going through something very sensitive in nature and you need to discuss things, but you can’t discuss them publicly or in a group, one-on-one is perfect. EPC, the collaborative, is for masterminding, working together, synergy. It’s for momentum, making motion, and to have fun along the way. We have a lot of fun. We laugh, we cry, we do all the things. But this is a group where you get to talk about the real emotional experience, the real experience of school leadership. That’s EPC. It’s a mastermind collaborative.

And the new and upcoming, I’m so excited, the new and upcoming program, this is brand new, new beginnings, fresh starts, is the Empowered Principal Academy. Now, listen up. This is the first week of July. The Empowered Principal Academy is starting in two weeks. This is not a program that you’re going to sit on and think about and wonder if you should or shouldn’t. You either are going to do it this year or you’re going to wait until next year. The Empowered Principal Academy was developed to help school leaders like yourself bring out the best in those you lead. The art and science of coaching is the practice of embracing empowerment for you as a coach, as a mentor, as a leader. Those are three different roles that you play. I’m teaching the art and the science of coaching to bring your people up, to empower them.

I want you to imagine each member of your staff and student community fully embodying their own empowerment because coaching at its soul, at its heart is the beauty of evolution and creation. It is a gift that you give to your staff of expansion, where you have the opportunity to provide others the experience of expanding and evolving and developing and creating their new beginnings, their new opportunities. You want your teachers to expand and grow. You want them to be continually evolving who they are, what they do, how they do it, what they believe, what they accomplish, the lives that they touch, because coaching is opportunity for us, for them, for the greater good. It’s about our identity evolving as a leader and adding the mastery of coaching into our identity. It’s about providing opportunity and identity expansion for our staff and our students because we want them to own their own empowerment. Mastering the art of coaching is going to develop you as a master at school leadership.

And I have been coaching for a decade. It is time that I share the tools, the tips, the strategies, the questions, the communication, the conversations, the how of coaching. And the Empowered Principal Academy is going to offer you just that. We’re starting mid-July. You’re going to learn, there’s going to be several sessions where you learn by firehose, and then there will be a monthly meeting. We will focus on a particular aspect of coaching. We will be integrating that particular aspect of coaching into our work that month, and you will be connecting with me and receiving feedback and being able to ask questions so that by the end of the year, you will graduate with a certificate in the art of coaching through the Empowered Principal Academy.

So here are the details. For one-on-one coaching, there is a link in the show notes for an individual consult. You and I will jump on the phone for about 45 minutes to an hour. You’re going to tell me everything that you think I need to know so that I can help you at an individual level and expedite your situation, expedite your coaching, expedite your leadership. If you’re considering the Empowered Principal Collaborative, there is a registration link in the show notes for EPC. If you are interested in the Empowered Principal Academy, there are two ways that you can connect with the academy.

Number one, if you have more questions or you want to talk with me directly, there is a link for a 20-minute meet and greet session. We can Q&A, we can talk about all the things. I can get you the information you need. You can schedule that. The link is in the show notes to schedule a short Q&A conversation with me over the phone. If you’re ready to sign up for EPA, there is a registration link in the show notes. Every link that you need is in the show notes. Simply click on the link, you will get more information from that link, and there’s also the link to schedule a personal phone call with me. I will answer any questions you have. I’ll take the time you need for you to explore what option you feel is best for you.

I personally believe with all of my heart, this is the most impactful professional development you could ever engage with because it’s not a one-and-done. It’s not about platforms and curriculums and what you should be doing that you’re not or what you should stop doing that feels essential. It’s about energy, leadership wealth, leadership energetics. It’s about you, developing you so that you can develop them so that you can develop the world for the greater good.

This is unlike any other leadership experience I’ve ever had, and I’ve developed it through my own work, my own study of humans, of communication, of my thoughts and feelings, of life coaching, of leadership coaching, and I’ve combined it into one package for you. That’s what the podcast is for and all of my paid programming is all about. You will come out of these programs, regardless of which one you choose, a different person, new beginnings, all of the time. You’re ever-evolving, you’re ever-growing, and these programs simply help guide you, help strengthen you, help you see what’s already there within you. You have what it takes. Your empowerment is there, accessible, ready to go.

Let’s have the most beautiful new beginning of the 2026-27 school year. I can’t wait to meet you and work with you. Have the most beautiful, beautiful week. I’ll talk with you soon.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | Leadership Clarity: Finding Your Compass

Making clear, confident decisions as a school leader can be challenging when multiple priorities, pressures, and competing perspectives pull you in different directions. Finding clarity is not just about making choices but understanding your own mindset, emotions, and the internal signals that guide your decision-making.

In this episode, I explore the concept of leadership clarity and the metaphor of a compass to help you navigate complex situations. I discuss how to pause, observe your thoughts and reactions, and distinguish between fear-based impulses and grounded, intentional action. You’ll hear practical strategies for regulating your nervous system, prioritizing what matters most, and approaching challenges with focus, presence, and confidence.

Tune in this week to learn how to use self-reflection, intentional pauses, and perspective shifts to find your compass in leadership. You’ll discover how to lead with clarity and calm even under pressure, balance competing demands, and maintain a strong sense of direction for yourself, your staff, and your school community.

The Empowered Principal® Collaborative is my latest offer for aspiring and current school leaders who want to create exceptional impact and enjoy the school leadership experience. Join us today to become a member of the only certified life and leadership coaching program for school leaders in the country by clicking here.

What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • What clarity really means and why we try to force it.
  • Strategies for pausing and reflecting before making high-stakes decisions.
  • How to balance multiple priorities while staying aligned with your values.
  • Ways to maintain perspective and focus during challenging situations.
  • The role of self-awareness in guiding confident, clear decision-making.
  • How to cultivate a personal compass that helps you navigate complex leadership moments.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 444. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Well, hello, my empowered principals. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to this week’s podcast. What a special podcast, 444, here at the end of June. 444 episodes of The Empowered Principal® Podcast. That is incredible. I am so proud of this moment. 444 weeks we have been together. That is absolutely incredible. I am so honored to be here with you. I am delighted that you have chosen to participate and to engage and listen to The Empowered Principal® Podcast.

I honestly feel from my entire heart and mind, body and soul that this podcast is truly a masterpiece. It is a masterclass in being human, in being human as a school leader, in exploring and studying human development, personal development, professional development, the study of education, teaching, learning, and leading. This is the study of it. Everything that I share with you on this podcast is to me a masterclass in life.

It is what I’ve learned personally and professionally as a person, as a leader who is developing and still continuing to develop, still continuing to study myself, how I engage with myself, how I treat myself, my identity, my interactions with other people, my thoughts about them, how I engage with the world. All of life is involved in school leadership. So, we are school leadership, school leadership is us, and this podcast aims to look through every single lens that is possible to study every single angle of our work, our lives, our impact, the legacy that we are leaving. As educators, we are a public servant. We are in the business of public service to develop the humans. 

And this podcast, I give you everything. And it’s yours for the taking. It’s yours for you to study it or not, for you to even consider it or not, for you to apply it and implement it or not, for you to study this work or not. I believe if we were to study this work, embody this work, that we would truly empower ourselves, our staff, our students, which would empower the greater good for us as leaders, for those we lead, for them, and for the greater good.

So today, we’re going to talk about leadership clarity. And for those of you who are angel number people, you do not have to be one to listen to this podcast, but 444 is about clarity. And so, I want to talk about leadership clarity today. Leadership, as you know very very well, whether you’re leading a classroom, leading your household, leading a school, leading a district, your leadership position in your life and in your career involves making many many decisions, many of which have complicated circumstances. 

And when we are making decisions in order to decide what approach we want to take, what actions, how we want to communicate, the way we want to interact or handle situations, the energetics we want to use as the fuel for our decisions and actions, when we are faced with these multiple decisions, we aim for clarity. We desire a sense of clarity. We want to feel clarity in our body before we’re making a decision or as we’re making a decision.

So what is clarity? What does it really mean? So the dictionary says that clarity is freedom from ambiguity, freedom. Clarity is freedom from cloudiness, from not understanding, not knowing. So it’s lucidity. It is understanding, having a clearness in our minds, a clearness in our bodies, knowingness inside how we feel. There is a certainty, a knowingness, a trust and faith. There is direction. 

When you feel clear, your compass is pointing in a direction, and therefore, you can make a decision. It says go west, we’re going west. Go north, go north. Turn back south, going south. There’s a transparency with clarity. There’s no fog in the way. It’s transparent. It’s clear. There’s truth. And with clarity, there is a sense of precision, of focus, where you’re lasering in, you’re not whack-a-moling. You’re looking at this one thing, you’re going in this one direction.

So clarity, in my own words, is the freedom of understanding something, knowing the truth as you see it, trusting that truth, and then making a decision that focuses your energy and attention and actions. So I want you to think of a time that you’ve had clarity, any circumstance, any situation. Sometimes when I have felt clarity, it’s just a feeling I have. It’s a knowingness. It’s instant. You just know it’s the way to go. It’s a gut feeling. It’s an intuition. You feel very called to it. You feel compelled to move in a certain direction, even if it’s not clearly making sense to you, it feels clear. 

It feels certain, so you will go for it, even when it doesn’t even make sense to you or other people. People are like, “What are you doing? That’s crazy.” When I quit my very high paying job with beautiful, incredible benefit package, I got grandfathered in. My benefits package was out of this world. My pay was incredible. I was making very high pay in the most expensive area in the nation, right, one of the most expensive areas. And for me to resign and start this business from scratch, I had no business doing this. I had no idea what I was doing. I felt so compelled, so clear. 

It was a gut feeling. It was something beyond me that just said, go in this direction. It was an internal compass guiding me. And everyone was like, “What in the heck are you doing?” And I said, “I don’t know, I have to do this.” It doesn’t even make sense. None of it made sense. But you don’t wait for more clarity or more direction. You’re not sitting around waiting for more. It’s just a solid hit of clarity where nothing more is needed. You just know more of anything is required. You just go. There’s that kind of clarity where it’s like a moment of like lightning bolt, compelling for certain that you have to do the thing.

And then other times you realize, I have a decision to make and I would like some clarity on this before I make this decision or before I take a certain action. And when we’re in that moment, oftentimes we want that clarity to come right now, right away in this very moment, because, hey, we’ve got a decision to make. We want to make it now. We want to keep moving. We want to do momentum. We want to hustle, grind. Let’s go. 

And the reason we feel that urgency is because oftentimes we feel a lot of pressure to stay in that big masculine energy where we’re doing and we’re hustling and we’re grinding and we’re in boss vibes. And there is obviously in leadership, there’s a lot of doing that is required. We can’t just sit in our office and feel good and eat strawberries all day. We have to do, right? We feel a lot of pressure to take action in this moment. 

So what we try to do is we try to force clarity. Trust me, I’ve done this a million times and I’ve watched every single one of my clients at some point in their career try to force clarity as well. We create pros and cons. We call other people. We talk to them. We get their opinions. We get their perspective. We try to get insight. We research the heck out of things. We’re online googling all the things. 

And then if that doesn’t help, we’re like, I just got to ask for it. I might even beg for it. I might even pray for it. Just tell me what to do. Tell me the right decision. Please help me. Someone out there, universe, I’m calling you. I’ve gotten the help hotline. We try to force it, and then when we can’t, we kind of beg for it.

But we crave the clarity. And why do we crave the clarity? Because it feels really good. When you’re clear on something, when a decision feels super clear, or an action you need to take is just like a no-brainer, that’s the action I got to take, even when you don’t want to take it, but you know it’s the right one, you just know it’s the right one because certainty feels good. It feels aligned. It feels authentic. It feels right. It feels like the right thing to do. 

And we want that feeling of clarity before we make the decision. We want to feel clear and then make the decision, because when we feel clarity, if we have like this bolt of clarity before we decide or act, it adds another emotion into the mix. We feel certain, we feel safe, we feel assured, which is confident. So on top of clarity, we feel this confidence. We feel safety, at the end of the day. It feels safe to make the decision. It feels safe to take the action because we feel so certain. We feel so much confidence in the decision because of the clarity. 

Yet, we don’t often want to allow the time that clarity sometimes requires. And that’s because we do not enjoy the actions required when clarity needs time, and we don’t like the discomfort that comes up with the actions required, the action of seeking clarity.

So what does that mean? It means seeking understanding, seeking the knowingness, seeking certainty, seeking which direction to go. It’s the action of listening internally, the action of waiting for clarity, the action of exercising patience, which at least for me is very difficult. But it’s the action of actually slowing ourselves down. And we don’t slow down, school leaders, do we? We speed up. We go faster, harder, longer, more. 

And this requires us to slow down, listen, wait, be patient, and trust. We resist this part of the clarity process because we feel the urgency to decide and act because we feel the pressure to arrive at the outcome or achieve the goal as fast as possible. We think there’s a problem when we have to wait for clarity. We sense problems. We sense that we might be in danger in some way if we wait. Something bad will happen if we wait, if we pause, if we don’t decide in the second or take action in this moment. 

So in response to that, we try to force clarity. And you’ve tried this before. Sometimes it comes when we force it. Sometimes we just like get tired of trying to force it and we just go with our gut anyway. Clarity doesn’t usually come when we’re trying to force it, though, does it? Forcing it actually makes us more confused, more overwhelmed, more uncertain, and then we’re feeling like we’re in a pickle. So what is the solution to this? It’s the opposite of the urge. It’s to really slow yourself down. 

In the fast-paced world of school leadership, it’s stopping, pausing, slowing down, slowing your breathing, regulating your physical body, regulating from within, reminding yourself, I’m okay. We’re okay. We’ve got this. We can handle this. I can hold space for this period of time. I can be patient. I can wait. I know clarity is coming. I’m going to give it some time. I don’t need to act or decide in this very moment. I am open to receiving clarity. We let our compass know we are listening. We are tuned in. We’re allowing it the opportunity to speak to us. 

And once we kind of claim that we’re open to receiving this clarity, you can shift gears. Take a break. Take a walk. Do something else. Just be present and keep moving forward with the things that you already know. You already have clarity on.

So here’s the thing, this is like the chicken or the egg scenario. Do you wait until you have absolute clarity on every single thing? Or do you take action? And in that action, clarity becomes present and clarity evolves and presents itself to you as you’re moving forward. So do you take action and then it becomes clear? Or do you wait for clarity and then take the action? And my experience is that we do both. 

When there is a decision to be made and its impact involves us, them, the greater good, like a big decision, and it has a larger impact, then we want to allow time for clarity to evolve. Meanwhile, we also continue taking action on things that we already are in alignment with, that we already trust, that we already know is the right thing for us to do, that we’re on the right path. 

So there’s this balance of having faith that you’re on the right path, taking action for the things you know and you have clarity on, and then anchoring yourself in that trust while you wait, while you expand your capacity for patience to listen and tune in and trust that internal guide and trust it will come to the surface. 

Because the truth is, your internal compass is always clear. It’s just that we tune in and out of it. It’s like a radio station. When we’re tuned in, it comes in very clear. But sometimes we’re running around and then we get out of range and the, you know, we can’t hear the radio and it gets staticky and there’s no clarity. We can’t hear what’s being said. And then we need to stop, slow down, fix the antennas, get back into a reception zone, and turn up the volume, and then listen for what’s actually being said. So sometimes it just takes some time for us to slow down, tune in, hear what’s being said, and really listen to what’s being said and then to trust it.

So I would be curious to know, in what areas of your leadership feel very clear and you’re just on it? Make a list. What are the things? Where do you feel super clear? This feels true. This feels true. This feels aligned. This feels right. I’m on the right path here. And then where are you a little less certain, a little less clear? And can you invite clarity into those larger decisions, those more complicated or bigger actions that you need to take? I’d love to hear. 

Allow yourself time to generate clarity while also taking actions on the things you know are clear. Try that. Let me know how it goes. Have a beautiful week. I love you guys. Take good care of yourselves. Talk to you soon. See you next week. Bye.

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The Empowered Principal® Podcast Angela Kelly | The Land of And: Embracing Abundance in School Leadership

Leadership is full of challenges and competing priorities. It’s easy to fall into “all or none” thinking, believing that if one thing goes wrong, the entire day or outcome is a failure.

In this episode, I talk about the concept of the Land of And, a mindset of abundance that allows leaders to hold multiple truths at once, embrace complexity, and approach problems with both clarity and flexibility. I share practical examples from school leadership to illustrate how you can experience joy and success while navigating difficult situations, addressing challenges, and making high-stakes decisions. You’ll hear why embracing the Land of And can expand your capacity and help you lead with intention.

Tune in to learn how to step into the Land of And, cultivate a balanced mindset, and create space for both success and setbacks in your professional life. This episode will help you reframe challenges as opportunities, embrace abundance in your leadership journey, and confidently navigate the dualities inherent in school leadership.

The Empowered Principal® Collaborative is my latest offer for aspiring and current school leaders who want to create exceptional impact and enjoy the school leadership experience. Join us today to become a member of the only certified life and leadership coaching program for school leaders in the country by clicking here.

What You’ll Learn From this Episode:

  • What the Land of And is and why it matters for school leaders.
  • How to shift from all-or-none thinking to an abundance mindset.
  • Ways to hold multiple priorities and competing outcomes without feeling overwhelmed.
  • Techniques for expanding your emotional and professional capacity as a leader.
  • How to embrace joy and success even while managing challenges and high-stakes decisions.
  • The importance of duality in leadership and accepting both wins and setbacks.
  • Strategies for creating a more resilient, flexible, and empowered leadership approach.

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Hello, empowered principals. Welcome to episode 443. 

Welcome to The Empowered Principal® Podcast, a not so typical educational resource that will teach you how to gain control of your career and get emotionally fit to lead your school and your life with joy by refining your most powerful tool, your mind. Here’s your host, certified life coach Angela Kelly. 

Well, hello, my empowered principals. Happy Tuesday and welcome to this week’s podcast. I hope you are having the most delightful June ever, and if you like to have fun and you’re not in our Facebook group yet, come on in. What are you doing? We’re having so much fun in the Summer of Fun Challenge. I’ve really reconnected with myself again with my willingness to be open and alive and engaged and to have fun and to be lighthearted and to release some of the heaviness that I have been carrying for the last couple of years. I feel it. I feel the release and it is manifesting in the Summer of Fun Challenge. We are having so much fun and I’m really celebrating everyone who is participating. It’s wonderful. 

And if you are there, I am so excited that you are there. And if you’re not there, we are so inviting you to come in and join us because you deserve to have fun. You deserve to be happy. You deserve to release the weights and the burdens of all of this responsibility we take on throughout the year, and you deserve a time and a space to slow down, to take a breath, to take in life, to take in the world around you, to laugh with the people you love, to spend time with yourself and people that you care about, to explore your communities, your world, to just be engaged with all aspects of your life, not only in your professional capacity. So, come on in to Summer of Fun Challenge. We’re having a blast.

All right. I want to talk about a topic that I am expanding my understanding of and my wisdom of. So there has been a decade of you hearing me say, “the Land of And.” I talk about the Land of And all of the time, and I embrace living in the Land of And. And I love the concept of the Land of And. So what do I mean when I say the Land of And? Originally, when this phrase came to me, it was early on in my coaching career. And I was coaching a client on having a conversation, and we were talking about having this conversation in creating and preparing for it in a way that was a win-win, a win for you and a win for them. 

And then I was coaching another client on making a decision about her career and where she wanted to land and what kind of job she wanted to be in. And we talked about the Land of And. Could it be possible that you could have this and this? Could you be in the position that you want and be aligned with your district? Could you be serving in the capacity you wish to serve and still have time for yourself, your friends, and your family? Can you have both?

So the Land of And is a concept that I created around abundance. I can experience this and that. I can create this and that. I can do this and that. I desire to have this and that. So when I was coaching on the Land of And, I was always asking people like, when you’re looking at a situation you’re facing or a problem you’re trying to solve or, you know, a conversation you are trying to express and decide how you want to communicate with that person, where’s the Land of And? Where’s the win-win? Where is the yes and frequency? Okay?

And lately, as I have been studying my own work and reapplying it to new situations in my life, because all of this that I teach on the podcast, if we could call it teaching, or that I share, things that I think of to, you know, concepts, exercises, strategies, tips, practices, whatever you want to label them as, the work that I’m doing here as a coach, my first responsibility is to apply the work to myself. And as a human, there are moments where I am totally locked in in alignment with the work that I teach and the coaching that I provide and the mentorship that I offer. 

And there are times where I get out of alignment, just as you feel there are times where you are in alignment and times where you are not in alignment. I’m a human. This happens for me too. Being a coach, as you know, being a school leader doesn’t mean you always know exactly how to lead or that you always lead yourself or lead your life exactly in the way you think it should be done or you sometimes lose sight of where you’re going on your journey. Coaches do that too, okay?

So in this work, I’ve noticed that I have been talking about the Land of And, and there are situations in which the Land of And doesn’t actually fully apply. So what are some of these examples? So I think about life in general, and obviously I think about school leadership, but we’re all one package. 

So when I coach people, it might start about professional conversations or leadership conversations or vision or culture or student behavior or climate issues, but it always ends up going back to personal, personal relationships that are impacting people, whether that’s at work or at home, interpersonal or intrapersonal where you are working with yourself and you’re having conflicting thoughts and feelings inside of yourself and it feels like there is a dissonance within you that you can’t seem to unblock or to release.

So where does the Land of And not apply? And I’ve noticed that it’s when we are using it to have one foot in and one foot out. When you’re thinking to yourself, this is working, but this isn’t working. It’s working, it’s not working. Is it working? Is it not working? Today I trust, no, I don’t trust. I don’t believe. I doubt, no doubt, doubt, no doubt. It’s when we’re half in, half out. It’s like if you were, you have a goal of losing weight. I’m losing a little bit of weight, but I’m also want to indulge. I’m a Land of And. I’m going to lose weight and I’m going to indulge. You’re not all in. You’re not fully committed. You’ve got two opposing desires, two opposing goals. 

Or when you are in your, you know, daily work and you’re thinking to yourself, oh, this is a problem. And you’re like, well, no, maybe it’s not a problem. Maybe I’ll just let it let it sit there. I’m not going to really address it. Is it a problem? Should I address it? No, I don’t want to address it. No, it’s not a problem. It’s not that big of a problem.

So it’s when we are in the land of the miserable maybe. Maybe this, maybe that. Maybe it’s working, maybe it’s not. Maybe I’m going to lose weight, maybe I’m going to indulge. Maybe this is a problem, maybe this isn’t. It’s when you’re sitting on the fence. One day I’m committed, the next day I’m not. This is a problem I should address it, but I don’t know how or I don’t really want to. Such a pain, right?

And then, this is where the work really landed internally for me, was looking through the lens of life, of whether that’s in my business, in my personal life, relationships, financial situation, romantic situations, friendships, family, you know, all of the facets of our life. Looking through the lens of, this is a problem. This is a problem in my business. This is a problem in my friendships. This is a problem in my romantic life. This is a problem in my marriage. This is a problem with my finances. This is a problem with my business. This is a problem with my clients. This is a problem in my marketing. Problem, problem, problem. 

And I’m looking through that lens. It’s a problem. But then, not a problem. I’m either going to look through the lens of it’s a problem and everything’s a problem, and when I think everything has a problem, every facet of my life has a problem, I’m going to be overwhelmed and I’m going to either overcompensate or I’m going to shut down.

When I think of the Land of And in its cleanest form, the Land of And concept is a mindset of abundance. It’s, I am expanding my capacity to hold space in my life, time, space, attention, focus, and I’m holding in, I’m growing and expanding internally my capacity to hold more tension, pressure, expectation, higher standards, and to hold that for longer periods of time, extended chapters of my life. And I can do both. 

I can experience the highs and the joys and the, you know, ecstasies of life, the joys, the pleasures, the highest of highs, and I’m not afraid to also hold space and the tension of deep sadness and grief and loss and disappointment and defeat and discouragement and guilt and shame and, you know, bouts of regret. I’ve always felt like our emotions are on a rubber band. They’re like a spectrum that can be stretched, but if you stretch in one direction, you have to stretch in the other. 

And most people play at plus two, minus two. They’re like, I can feel a little bit of happiness, but I can only take so much sadness. So therefore, like our capacity for more joy is stunted because we can’t expand to the negative. I’m willing to feel the good, but I’m not willing to feel the bad. But there’s duality. There has to be that dichotomy. There has to be the mirror image.

And the Land of And is like, as I’m expanding, evolving, and growing as a school leader, as the leader of my life, as a woman in the world, as a mother, as a sister, as a daughter, as a friend, as a sibling, as whatever it is. And you can flip this to whatever you identify as, whether that’s male or it doesn’t matter. Any type of human can expand their capacity to be both, to increase their capacity for pain so that they can also increase their capacity for joy.

When you became a school leader, your rubber band got stretched. It was like, okay, you want to try this out? Here we go. We’re going to expand you. We’re going to put you in leadership boot camp here and emotional boot camp, and we’re going to stretch your capacity to hold the tension of having a problem that can’t easily be solved. Can you get up and go to work and still have joy while also knowing there are problems at your school? Can you do both? Can you hold the Land of And there? 

Can you be lighthearted while also holding the pressure of really heavy topics and really heavy situations coming across your desk at school? Can you expand your capacity to make decisions knowing that half of the time, half of the people aren’t going to like them? No matter what you decide, there will be tension, there will be people who dislike you. Can you hold space for both a decisive leader where half the people love the decision you’re making and love who you are as a leader, and half of the people are disgruntled? Can you hold that? That’s abundance when you can do both.

And then there is the all or none mindset where I tended to coach saying like, oh, that’s an all or none mindset. You’re throwing the baby out with the bath water. It’s, you know, you dribble one drip of coffee on your paper and you throw the whole paper away, right? Or you, you know, you have one bad minute at work and now the whole day’s shot. This all or none thinking. 

And so I would, you know, point this out to say, is this how you want to experience the day? You’ve had this one bad or this one uncomfortable conversation. Can you hold space for both? Like to have that hard conversation and then to go out and connect with somebody in a way that feels really, really good, and then there’s the duality in your day. There’s the 50/50 of the school leadership experience.

So when we’re working on our goals, we can use the Land of And to not fully commit, to say we’re all in, but then not be all in. I want this and that. So we have to be onto ourselves and be honest with ourselves in that the all or none concept when it’s you’re making a decision, I’m all in or this is not the right time, I’m going to release that. And that requires trust and faith and commitment. So when you’re all in, it requires a lot of trust, faith, and commitment, and when you’re out, it requires trust, faith, and commitment. You got to stay out, right? 

It’s like staying out of somebody else’s lane. You want to go micromanage somebody? You got to get in their lane. If you want to commit to micromanaging them, let them go and then do their entire job. Be all in their lane, 100%. Or if you’re making a decision, I’m no longer a leader who micromanages, I have to have trust, I have to have faith, and I have to have full-on commitment that I’m not going to start swimming in their lane. 

It doesn’t mean I don’t check in on them and talk with them and ask them where they’re at and discuss the standards of the position and discuss the expectations, but then you release that because you’re trusting and you’re having faith that they’re committed because you’re committed. You’re committed to not micromanaging them, but you are committed to trusting and believing in them, which then they raise up. Hopefully, that’s the plan. They rise to the occasion and they are fully committed because you’re not in there trying to take away their job by telling them how to do it.

So I think of this as even when, even when things are not going the way that I want them to right now, I trust that this is working. Even when there are problems to solve at my school, I have faith that we’re going in the right direction. I have faith that we are doing what’s best for kids to the best of our ability. Even though I’ve experienced a failure, I am committed to figuring this out. Even though I’ve experienced a loss, I have faith that I’m going to be okay and that I can handle this and that I’m on the right path, even when something isn’t perfect.

And it’s interesting because we so desire for our school to be perfect. We want everyone in attendance. We want everyone loving their job and fully, you know, 100% committed, 100% of the time. We want every parent happy. We want every teacher happy. We want every support staff happy. We want every meeting to go smoothly. We want the scores to always be going up. We want everybody to be making progress in the way that we measure it. Otherwise, it doesn’t feel like it’s considered growth.

If we’re not measuring it, then it doesn’t matter, right? So even though a kid has made tremendous progress, if we’re not progress monitoring that and putting it down onto paper and measuring it, it doesn’t feel as significant. Can I hold space that even when the scores on the paper aren’t moving, that my school is moving, that we are serving the students with what they need, not with what other people think they need, or how other people want us to measure their growth.

Whenever everything feels like it’s falling apart, you can either believe that it’s falling apart. Now let’s play this out. Everything’s falling apart. And that is your belief system. You wake up and your nervous system says, “Oh hello Miss Angela, everything is falling apart.” I want you to feel that in your body. Say it out loud with me. Oh my gosh, everything is falling apart. 

Where do you feel that in your body? For me, as I say this in this microphone to you, my heart starts to pound. I feel panicked. Everything is falling apart. That sentence, to say it out loud, I feel panicked, and in the reaction to that panic, I have an urge to do something very masculine, lots of energy, lots of doing, fixing, changing, stopping, stopping the bleeding, stopping the leak, make it stop. Make it stop not working. Make it stop falling apart.

And when you believe everything’s falling apart, you will react in fight or flight, and you will do everything you can to stop it from happening. Why? Because when things are falling apart, even when things fall apart, because they do, you lean into trust, into faith, and to commitment, to the belief. A commitment to the belief, not a commitment to action right now, a commitment to the belief that you’re going to be okay, that you can handle this, that you are equipped with the tools, the emotional regulation tools, and that you can handle the emotions that are coming up when things are in fact falling apart. 

But when you continue to tell yourself things are falling apart, things are falling apart, things are falling apart, that storyline is going to make you feel disempowered because the reaction, what the mind wants you to do is go take action. Very masculine energy to run in and to save the day, to stop the leaks, to solve the problems, to fix whatever it is. 

Versus when something happens, instead of going to, everything’s falling apart, all or none thinking, it’s all working or it’s all not. You can say, “Here’s what just happened. I have an angry parent. Why are they angry? They are angry because their student got in trouble. Why did the student get in trouble? Well, the student got in trouble because we observed this behavior. That behavior is against rules.”

And then the teacher forgot to tell the parent, and now the parent’s upset at the teacher for not communicating and upset that the child’s in trouble, and they don’t believe, okay, that’s what’s happening. So even when a parent is upset at me and is angry at the situation, I have the space and the capacity to handle it. Land of And, abundance. I don’t like the thought a parent’s angry at me because it doesn’t feel good and I want to go in and fix it so I don’t feel bad, but can I hold the space? Like this parent is angry, but they can be angry. I will work with them and it’s okay if they’re angry. They can be angry at something I have found evidence for the truth of. 

So if it’s true, you have evidence that their child did in fact conduct this certain behavior that’s against standard. They can be angry and you’re okay. And you can be upset with your teacher because they failed to communicate and that’s okay. And you can have a conversation with your teacher, and they might be uncomfortable about what happened or their lack of action, and that’s okay. It’s okay for other people to have feelings and you still be holding space for all of it, for how you feel, for how they feel, and everyone’s going to also be okay. Land of And. 

And you’re also 100% committed to communicating with the parents, with the teacher, with the student for as long as it takes for everyone to at least come to peace with what is. They might not like what is, but they’re at peace with it. They’ve accepted it. The student accepts their consequence. The parents accept that you’re not going backwards on the consequence. The teacher accepts responsibility and apologizes to the parent.

So the key in all of this is how it feels. So here’s where the Land of And works in school leadership. It’s when it feels abundant. When you can have this and that and feel good, you can trust, you can believe you’re on the right path. I can be a school leader and leave my work on my desk, no later than 5 p.m. each night and be okay. The Land of And. Now in the beginning, when you’re brand new, that might not feel true. You might be taking your work home. You might be checking email from 8 to 9 or whenever you fall asleep. 

You will expand your capacity to believe that the emails will always be there, everything will be okay, and you will start to schedule email checks in your work day, and you’ll be able to expand your capacity to be a school leader and not be working 24/7 and have boundaries around your time. You’ll expand into that belief. 

And it feels abundant to think, my goal is to, this is a feel-good goal. My goal is to be a school leader. I don’t want to be a teacher anymore. I want to be a school leader, and I want to figure out how to manage my time and to honor my boundaries and to have a life outside of checking emails all night long. I want to be with my kids, my family, my friends, my partner, myself, and that feels good. And I’m expanding into that identity of the person who can do both.

So let’s go back to the weight loss issue. Let’s say you want to lose 10 pounds, right? You can decide you’re going to lose 10 pounds and have a scoop of ice cream once a week and put that in your plan if it feels good. If it feels good to give yourself that indulgence and still lose 10 pounds, and it feels good, Land of And. Or you can do all or none. 

You can have a goal of losing 10 pounds and decide that you’re going to cut out ice cream as part of your plan because you’re either willing to miss it. You love ice cream, but you’re like, I am eating three ice cream cones, whatever, every single night. I just can’t help myself, and I’m committed. I’m willing to feel the deprivation of my love for ice cream in order to lose these 10 pounds. I’ve got a wedding coming up or whatever, right? We do all kinds of stuff. 

But let’s just say, I’m committed to the 10 pounds and I’m willing to feel the deprivation of the ice cream. Or maybe you’re like, wait a minute, of all the things that I could cut out in my food experience, my dining experience, I’m willing to give up ice cream. I’m willing to let it go. I’m willing because I realized of all the things, that’s what I would rather cut out. I’d rather be able to get a slice of pizza than a scoop of ice cream. If I had to pick, ice cream’s way easier. That feels good. So you can go all or none if it feels good and the Land of And when it feels good.

Now, thinking back to school leadership, thinking about this, I have a problem or I don’t have a problem. Which one feels more abundant? This is a problem and I have the capacity to solve it. Land of And. Or, this is not a problem. I am not going to make this a problem. All or none. If it’s working and it feels abundant, great. If it’s not working and you want it to work, problem solved, Land of And. Either way, if you believe it’s working but inside it doesn’t feel true, or you’re like, “Everything’s a problem,” and that doesn’t feel good, you’ll know that you’re using the wrong approach here. And not really wrong, it’s just the approach that doesn’t feel good. It’s not a feel-good goal.

So you’re either like, “Yes, things are working. I’m going to look for evidence that things are working. I’m going to build upon the things that are working to address the things that aren’t working as well as we’d like them to.” They might be working at 10% capacity or 40% capacity, but they are working. Or we’re like, okay, these things are working. Let them roll. This is where I want to work. This doesn’t feel good. I want to commit to this. I’m all in at solving this problem this year. 

So you either have a problem and you’re working to solve it, or it’s not a problem. You’re going to let it go. You’re going to focus on trust and faith that it’s working and will continue to work until it doesn’t. And then you’ll be committed to adjusting it.

So leaders, listen, I’m a person that has struggled with this for a long time. I have believed for many years of my life that things were happening to me, that I was a victim, a victim in my childhood, which I actually was because there was a huge imbalance of power and authority. And as I became an adult, I carried that with me and I used adult experiences and applied that thinking that things were happening to me, I didn’t belong, I didn’t fit in, I wasn’t good enough versus looking for an alternate truth. What else is true?

It could be that hard things happened and they’re happening for me. Land of And. It could be hard things are happening right now, but I’m committed 100% to figuring it out. I’m 100% in belief that I can handle this and I was made for this, and I’m 100% certain this is happening for me to either give me information or teach me a skill or provide me information and wisdom and knowledge and experience so that I can apply it moving forward. Expansion. It’s going to expand me, it’s going to greater empower me, and I’m going to hold the faith that even in the most uncomfortable moments or days or weeks or months or years. 

There are chapters, there are seasons of our life that are uncomfortable for an exceptional amount of time. You have the capacity. Even when you don’t feel like you’re handling it well, you’re handling it. If you’re waking up each day and you’re putting your feet on the ground and brushing your teeth and getting a shower and getting dressed and getting in the car and serving in whatever position you are currently serving, you are handling it. Even if you cry, let yourself cry. That’s healthy. Even if you go to bed at 7 p.m. and cry your eyes out until you fall asleep, you’re still handling it. Even when you feel the melancholy and the sadness and the grief and the loss, you’re handling it.

And sometimes those chapters take a minute before the joy comes back in. But boy, when you experience a negative 10 on the emotional scale where it feels like you’re not going to make it, and yet you do, when the plus 10 comes in, there is an appreciation for that joy, for that pleasure, for that satisfaction, for that happiness like never before. So have faith, even in the most uncomfortable moments, that it is for us as leaders. It is for them, those we are serving, and it is for the greater good.

If you find that this work, this conversation, deeply resonates with you, if you feel connected to this work, if it feels like something you would like to dive into, you would like to explore, you would like to study, the Empowered Principal Collaborative or one-on-one coaching, depending on your preference, one of those two programs is the most aligned program for you.

So I offer several programs, but this work that I’m talking about right here, the deep internal work can be done one-on-one and the balance is in the Empowered Principal Collaborative. So the collaborative is the balance of that direct professional development. It’s focusing on your leadership skills, but it also focuses on self-led mindset. So it’s skillset, all the mastery of the leadership skills, the actions you take, kind of the masculine part of your leadership position, but it also includes the self-led, the internal work, the feminine side, the emotional regulation work, the energetics. So those two programs are most aligned if you want to develop this within yourself.

So if you are interested in one-on-one coaching, there is a link in the show notes to schedule a one-on-one consult with me. We will have a conversation and I will work with you and I’ll let you know very honestly if one-on-one is appropriate or if another program is more appropriate. We’ll find out what suits you best. If you feel called to the Empowered Principal Collaborative, there will be a link in the show notes to sign up for the group coaching program. 

And that’s where you’ll get a lot of the leadership mastery skills. That’s a lot of the application in your leadership position. That’s the work we do on the daily. And that program runs from September to the end of May. It’s basically Labor Day to Memorial Day, but we have bonuses in the month of August for planning and preparing because you’re doing a lot of that work, okay?

All right. I wish you the most aligned, beautiful day. Happy June, happy summer. Come on into Summer of Fun. We’re doing so much over here in the world of the Empowered Principal, and I would be delighted for you to join us. Have a beautiful day. We’ll talk soon. Take care. Bye.

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